On Monday 04 May 2009, Erik Christiansen wrote:
>On Sun, May 03, 2009 at 09:05:54PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
>> I used 2 pieces of brass tubing from the model hobby store that slip
>> inside the next larger size.  1/4" & the next size smaller.  I cut a pair
>> of windows in the outside 1/4" tube such that a one piece opto interrupter
>> (ir led on one side, ir photo-transistor looking at the led across the air
>> gap) fit by friction across the slots.  Then in the smaller tube I cut a
>> longer pair of matching windows in, using diamond wheels in a dremel cuz
>> that stuff bends easily, too easily to saw, filled the top with solder so
>> a ball point pen spring could rest on it pushing it down, made a steel
>> pointed plugin for the bottom of it, and slid a piece of a black cable tie
>> inside it to act as the light valve.  The outside tube is swaged in at the
>> top just enough to trap the ball point pen spring.
>
>Gene, that's a super clear word picture. Good enough to build from. I
>hadn't imagined a simple shutter (the piece of black cable tie),
>transitting the light beam from one side (below), cutting off the light
>beam in anything but a gradual manner.
>
>The little bagful of Sharp opto interrupters I bought last week have a
>0.5 mm slit on the detector side of the slot. Ahh ... with a schmitt
>trigger (or just a comparator with minimal hysteresis) on the detector
>output, we can trigger on a (reasonably) fixed light level, and so a
>fixed point in the 0.5 mm beam transit.
>
>Many thanks for the description. (I'll still be in the audience when the
>pictures are published. :-)
>
They are now included at
<http://gene.homelinux.net:85/gene/emc> as 'probe-*.jpg'

These opto's I used have about a .150" gap.  It holds the thing together when 
assembled.  I don't recall now if they have schmidt outputs or not.

Now this is Off Topic:

As for the accuracy, I have a home made version, build up from small pieces of 
cherry to hold the led and transistors, gapped wide enough to straddle the 
beam on my ancient Ohaus 505 powder scale and use it to control an H&R stepper 
driver kit, which in turn controls a large ecomony sized home made powder 
dribbler that can hold over half a pound of powder.  I found the action as the 
beam moves very sudden, so I used 2 photo-transistors stacked vertically in 
parallel as the detectors in order to gradualize its response, along with a 
very dim led, but its still so sudden that I had to build a very weak spring 
in under the scale beam to hold it to about -.15 gr position when the pan is 
empty.  Positioned carefully so that it doesn't touch the beam by about 20 
thou when its in balance.  The stepper slows down very very quickly in the 
last 2 grains dumped, and it stops the stepper when the beam is at about -.1gr 
and the beam actually coasts into balance when everything is right, including 
which side your chaw of kentucky twist is held. (yours maybe, not mine, I 
haven't used tobacco in 20 years)  But I can get +- .02 grain accuracy out of 
it, 50 charges in a row, and that is what counts.  I have to shade it from 
room lights with a hunk of scotch 88 over the top of it as the lights effect 
it about .1 grains.  Obviously I do a little target shooting too.  Enough that 
3 boxes of factory shells, and a couple shoeboxes of old mill brass from Camp 
Perry in the mid 60's, have now about burned out the 2nd barrel (one of Ed 
Shilen's) on the 22-250, and 3 barrels on my Ackley-06 I use for my venison 
getter.  :)  It has had too much of the WV hunting season which corresponds to 
our fall monsoon here, aka rust pits near the muzzle.  So now I carry a bag of 
balloons to pull over the muzzle & shoot through them when I'm out in the 
rain.  But I suspect it will take a trip to Cross Lanes WV to get it fixed, 
another fresh Douglas Supreme before its again a one minute gun.  Stainless I 
think this time.  It won't last as long before the throat goes away, but won't 
rust either.  At my age now, I don't expect to wear the next barrel out.  One 
of my boys might though. :-)

>Cheers,
>Erik


-- 
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Adapt.  Enjoy.  Survive.


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