On Friday, June 01, 2012 07:20:37 AM John Thornton did opine:

> No wonder that file takes so long it makes one pass at the OD

:) To check fixture clearances.

> then
> rapids to a slot makes one pass then rapids to the next slot... then
> rapids to the holes then rapids to the ID. And wow is it complicated and
> full of neat code. It would make much more sense from a machining view
> point to cut each slot fully then move to the next slot then change
> tools

This spindle is #2 morse collets, loosen drawbar about 2 turns, beat it 
loose with a piece of steel. Hard on bearings.  The only fixed length is 
the rings on the drills, so my tool changing z accuracy if I change the 
collet to fit the bigger mill, really needs my autoz code. Unforch, without 
making a melamine jig to insulate the whole thing, that's out.  It uses 
G38.2 for that.  This way its all done with one z home & one bit if I don't 
break it...

> and drill the mounting holes and with a larger end mill cut out
> the center and OD of the part. The beauty of Lawrence's file is that it
> is completely configurable.

Almost, I've added about 6 or 8 more vars so it is considerable more 
adjustable.  Lawrence's original code is also available on the net.  If you 
need that for comparison I'll dig up the bookmark.
 
> How in the world do you hold the material to machine ID, OD, slots, and
> holes at the same time?

Clamps on each of the 4 corners. Because this stuff is so thin, I've 
considered making a jig fastened to the table, then using one of the 
leftovers in 1/16" brass as an overlaying holddown with its own bolts to 
hold the stuff flat while machining.  That could also serve as a dam to 
hold cutting oil in place a bit better, as it is, it creeps away and has to 
be replenished about 2x a loop thru the main loop.  If I see debris stuff 
on the bit when it goes to safeZ, its time for more oil.  I have made a 
mister that could keep the swarf blown away, but even with the shop door 
open, it turns into a glasses fogging fog of oil in there in about 30 
minutes.  And my lungs don't need that safflower oil in them either.

This between the clamps warpage is why I have to start about 15 thou high, 
and run to about 10 thou into the 1/4" oak sacrificial its clamped down to.  
It wasn't near the problem with 1/16" brass, but with a #60 drill it would 
be 2-3 days to carve because the brass tends to work harden.  I've already 
broke about $50 in these bits, but if I don't push them, they'll cut with a 
0.0025" touch forever in alu if I keep an oil film on the work to seal out 
the oxygen.  A higher speed spindle would help, this one is tapped out at 
2500.  Right now the 'touch' is about 0.0032, so I've dropped the feed 
override to about 75% where I don't see the bit flexing as much.  Time I 
have, accuracy is whats needed.  I only have to do it once IF I get it 
right.  Keyword=right...

> If I had to make that part and I might one day, I'd drill the holes then
> mill the ID. Then I'd prepare a mounting plate with a boss the size of
> the ID then bolt the disk down and mill the slots and the OD.

I've considered that. If I was to make them for sale I'd at least make a 
better holddown jig.  In my case, a mini lathe, the mounting holes could be 
dispensed with as the finished disk is trapped between the spindles preload 
adjusting nut, and an identical locking nut.  So the concentricity demands 
means that center hole is -0.000 to +0.002 max.  It's about right when I 
have to fuss a bit to get it over the threads and seated against the 
preload but.  At the diameter of that bolt circle the bolts would interface 
with the locknuts.  So if to actually be used, the bolt circle would need 
enlarged but the limit there is when the bolts or rivets hit the center, 
index pulse generating interrupter.  There isn't a lot of room to play in 
that area. :) 
 
> By "duty cycle" does that mean the  width of the slot verses the width
> between the slots?

Yes, exactly, in order to get a 50% duty square wave.  Lawrence's original 
cut at 50% with a /2.0 there, no comp for opto aperture.  Besides, mulls 
are quite a bit faster then divides for the computer.  My last attempt was 
at .45, and it was about 60/40 high/low since the opto's don't have an 
infinitely small aperture.  Lawrence's original code also tapered the index 
slot, but the placement of it at the same fixed width made the inner end of 
the AB slot wider at slot 0, big bump in encoder velocity output. Spindle 
goes whump whump as that slot went by the opto's out of time.  Not good.  
Listen to Z going crazy when running a G76, sounds like its being run by 
pink noise!

Thanks John

Cheers, Gene
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