I'm sure fresh bearings would help the 15hp and it is a heavy duty TEFC 
motor. I might pull it apart today and order some new ones...

I didn't measure the temperature of the 10hp and only ran a few minutes 
but I'll keep an eye on it.

I didn't ask for taps on the transformer but it won't hurt to find out 
the price. Input taps for 220 and 240?

How is the encoder disk coming along?

John

On 5/31/2012 7:21 AM, gene heskett wrote:
> On Thursday, May 31, 2012 07:34:36 AM John Thornton did opine:
>
>> Interestingly I had a bit of time last night and did some more voltage
>> measurements with various bits turned on to load the RPC.
>>
>> RPC only running AB=245 BC=253 AC=253
>> With the BP 308 (Simodrive 611) powered up AB=245 BC=245 AC=245
>> With the Samson 7.5hp manual lathe spindle at 660 RPM AB=244 BC=232
>> Adding the 308's spindle at 1000 RPM AB=244 BC=234 AC=229
>> Ramping up to 3000 RPM on the 308's spindle AB=244 BC=234 AC=227
> The phase angles are shifting some.  And the sag might mean you would have
> to go back to the 15 horse idler for the RPC.  You said it was noisy, would
> fresh bearings help?  OTOH, if its an open frame Ajax, they howl like fire
> sirens anyway.
>
> A 15 horse water pump we had as a backup at KXNE-TV, easily added 30 db to
> the noise level as it wasted at least a horse on internal cooling fans.  I
> didn't think much of it, but it did get 1000 or more running hours without
> problems while we ordered up and installed seal kits in the other, much
> quieter pump.  Klystron amplifiers need about 70 GPM of cooling water each
> when at full beam current, so between the 2 we were moving about 120 GPM.
> You don't scrimp on cooling those at $150,000 per cooling failure. A 3
> phase Heineman breaker single phased the pump, I recognized the sound and
> my hand was about 1/2 way to the kill button when the building entrance
> breaker, 1200 amps/phase, went down like a 8 gage shotgun&  left me
> standing in the dark to contemplate my sins.  One klystron full of water
> where it should have had a very good vacuum.  The beam ate a hole in the
> anode bucket in less than a second.  That of course crow barred the 20 kv
> beam supply, and things all went to hell from there. They had to call in a
> quorum of the unicameral legislature to buy me a replacement.
>
> How hot is the 10HP running after an hour with both loads on it?
>
>> So it appears I need to do a bit more tuning with the caps as the load
>> is dragging down the voltage on the generated leg. Interestingly with
>> the Samson running the BP 308 would start from 0 to a higher RPM than
>> with it off even though the voltage had been pulled down by the Samson's
>> spindle.
> Things that make you go "humm".
>
>> I also tried adjusting some of the pots on the 611 spindle drive with no
>> conclusive results from that experiment.
>>
>> I did hear back from the transformer guy Gene gave me the link to. Seems
>> to be a fair price so I'll investigate that more as well as look at the
>> diesel generator next week and do some more tuning on the RPC.
>>
>> "Hi John,
>> The cost for a 240 VAC 30A 3-phase isolation transformer is $1250.
>> Factory lead time is approximately 4-5 weeks.
>> If you need any additional information or would like to order the unit,
>> please feel to contact me by phone or email.
>> Regards,
>> Jeff
>> Jeff Weinberg
>> Harbach Electronics, LLC"
>>
>> John
> When you asked for the quote, did you include some extra primary taps so
> that a 5 to 10% step up/down could be done?  That could turn out to be
> handier than sliced bread or bottled beer. There will be a cost associated
> with the taps of course.  Whomever I talked to before, seemed to be a
> decent sort.  And the stuff is top quality in my experience.
>
> [...]
>
> Cheers, Gene

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