On Wednesday 11 July 2012 14:16:21 Peter C. Wallace did opine:

> On Wed, 11 Jul 2012, Jon Elson wrote:
> > Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 12:37:03 -0500
> > From: Jon Elson <[email protected]>
> > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
> > 
> >     <[email protected]>
> > 
> > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
> > <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Spindle
> > hooked to dc servo amp
> > 
> > Kasey Matejcek wrote:
> >> Yes the  ppmc.0.pwm.00-03.freq 50000
> >> After playing some time I've come up with this it responds from 2 rpm
> >> to 14 rpm when you set s this give and accual spindle speed from
> >> about 35 to 75 rpm
> >> But there is no to little control if load is applied to the spindle
> >> As soon as any p,I,g are added then it unstable surging up and down
> > 
> > Sure, with FF0 only, it is still an open-loop speed control.  it is
> > even possible you
> > have the phase of the servo loop backwards.  You might try a negative
> > value in
> > P and see if it helps control it under load.  If so, then your P, I
> > and D values
> > should all be negative.
> > 
> > Jon
> 
> Danger Will Robinson!
> 
> The PID loop has a bug (feature) and can run-away with negative
> coefficients
> 
> Peter Wallace
> Mesa Electronics

I think I found that last spring when I was carving a different encoder 
wheel about every day, and had to swap the a/b sigs from my encoder, then 
it behaved.

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