Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Tuesday 10 July 2012 23:59:04 Kasey Matejcek did opine:
>
>   
>> It set to 1000
>> setp ppmc.0.pwm.03.scale 1000
>>
>> when you watch ppmc.0.pwm.03.value it changes from 1000 to -1000 and
>> back and forth it goes
>> when I set s 50 rpm then after some time ppmc.0.pwm.03.value goes to
>> like 50 after some time but it still surges up and down and so does the
>> number if left long enough ppmc.0.pwm.03.value goes to 0 or some really
>> small number when the rpm is set lower than 100rpm but really never get
>> stable above 100 rpm it just keeps surging up and down
>>     
>
> One other question might be in order here, just to remove the possibility 
> of a hidden low frequency pole in the feedback loop, what are you using for 
> an interface between the pwmgen output, and the spindle motors own 
> controller?
>   
He is using my PWM servo amplifiers, these are 4-quadrant PWM amps with no
smoothing or control loops in them.  Motor voltage = DC supply * PWM 
duty cycle.
So, I don't think that is it.  I have done this on my minimill, but 
without the closed-loop
part.  It is not a stiff speed control, but it is free from instability, 
of course.


Hmmm, but there IS one other possibility.  If you command 100% duty cycle of
the PWM, the bootstrap capacitors that create the gate bias for the 
high-side transistors
will run down.  Then, the motor may surge about like Kasey describes.  
So, that's
why in the univpwm_motion.hal file it has :

setp ppmc.0.pwm.03.max-dc 0.95

which sets it to 95 % duty cycle.  You could as a test change that to 
0.9 and see if
it makes any difference.  But, usually 95% is plenty of headroom, even 99%
should work.

In the partial file given by Kasey I did not see a frequency setting, as in

setp ppmc.0.pwm.00-03.freq 50000

for 50 KHz.  If there is no such line in the file, I have no idea
what PWM frequency has been set, and that could cause a big problem.
But, if the X and Z axes work, that probably is not the problem.
This frequency is common to all axes on a UPC board.

Jon

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