On Saturday 29 December 2012 12:32:12 andy pugh did opine:

> On 29 December 2012 10:11, Viesturs Lؤپcis <viesturs.la...@gmail.com> 
wrote:
> > Using them for initial commutation would be ok, but using them
> > permanently does not seem like a good idea, because that signal is not
> > differential and that is plasma table, so I expect some noise in the
> > signals,
> 
> A momentary glitch in a Hall signal may well cause a momentary torque
> glitch, but it should recover immediately upon the next valid signal.
> As long as your positioning doesn't go wrong in that millisecond by
> enough to matter, it should be OK.

Which is why, when I looked at his halscope traces of those sensor timings, 
I failed to see anything off far enough to do more than a rather minor 
irregularity in the cogging effect, a 10% wibble in the torque at worst.  
So I am inclined to do the un-thinkable, and hang some 10x scope probes on 
the drivers outputs.

That will need a more than dual trace scope however since you need to see 
all 3 at the same time.  And the eyeball training to recognize a voltage 
waveform from a bad driver for what it is.  Even I, with 60 years of 
staring at scope traces, often have to stop and analyze the waveform I am 
seeing very carefully when I am looking at voltage & trying to imagine the 
currents flowing through a highly inductive load. 

In fact, now that I think about it, it would be ideally best not to analyze 
the voltages, but to sense the currents flowing thru a milliohm resistor.  
Since we're probably talking about an HBridge drive, which has no common 
ground point, best inspected with the full bandwidth of an un-amplified 
hall effect probe. 3 of those sparkfun BOB-08882's at 9.95 ea. made up into 
a test kit, might be the most educational $30 (USD) ever spent if a 
suitable scope to display their output is available.

Obviously something deeper than the timing of the hall patterns is wrong 
there.

Cheers, Gene
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