On 08/02/2013 03:08 PM, Greg Bentzinger wrote:
> It is often "uncomfortable" to pay too much ( or what you may
> preceive as too much ) but it is usually far worse to not pay
> enough.
>
> A real DC servo, and a 4 brush more specifically will turn smoothly
> with as little as the power supplied by a single "D" cell battery
> with no visual or audio signs of "cogging". Try this on a "treadmill
> motor" and it will be a big eye opener. That big ol fan unit which is
> usually mounted on the tread mill motor shaft serves double duty as a
> flywheel to soften this cogging, also the cogging is lessoned by the
> reduction belt drive, the belts help damp out the vibration.

I'll agree that a cog free motor is more desirable, but with a feedback
controlled motor, there seems to be very little advantage. For the 
difference in cost, I've found that cog-rich treadmill motors work 
pretty well. I think putting the savings into getting rid of backlash is 
more important. I could be convinced to change my opinion, but so far I 
haven't been.

> I like those Mitsubishi units Andy linked to - but Buyer beware -
> There are servos, and there are sever duty servos - you need a good
> sealed unit that can handle running in coolant if the servo is
> mounted in an area subject to chips and coolant. A prime example
> would be the motor used for a 4th axis sitting on a mill table. That
> unit will get practically submerged in some cases when run in a
> common VMC type machine.

A treadmill motor could be well protected by using a full enclosure:
http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/bridgeport/00047-1a.jpg

I made the above table end plate large enough to fit a box over the 
motor, encoder, et al. (This was a jury rig. If I ever build it for 
real, the encoder would go on the screw end, and the motor fitted with 
billet end caps and bearings upgraded.)

Now, if a machine is being used used to put one's kids through college, 
I would agree that spending a few buckets of money on known-good 
hardware and saving downtime may make a lot more sense.

"
Cost   Time
     \ /
      |
    Quality
"
-- 
Kirk Wallace
http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/
http://www.wallacecompany.com/E45/

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