On Monday 30 November 2015 11:46:28 Dave Cole wrote:

> Have you considered putting the vacuum outside?
>
> Dave

>From where it is, that would be a good 25' of 1.5" pvc, Dave.

And a huge heat leak if I pump that much air outside, that garage is 
quite well insulated, 6" walls are full of cocoon, and about a foot of 
it on the ceiling with an extra layer of 2" styro on the inside of the 
garage door, and even in the subzero weather, one cheap electric heater 
keeps it above 60F.  Plug in a 2nd one, and it will be up past 80 in 1 
hour.  Besides, where its sitting, its only a few seconds to open the 
catch bucket and retrieve the buttons it sucks up.  Longer to shake the 
dust off them.  But I'll give some thought to moving only the vacuum & 
leaving the cyclone where it is.  The obvious place would be inside a 
30" square opening in the front wall of the house where the electric 
meter is, but its not going to be a straight shot.  Its only about 6 
feet to that wall, but that wall is busier than all get out because 
thats where all the electrical is for the standby generator.

That might mean piping its exhaust back in for the heat recovery this 
time of the year & is why I mentioned muffler designs I could cobble up 
out of pvc.

> On 11/30/2015 11:31 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > Greetings all;
> >
> > Todays story from West (by God) Virginia.
> >
> > I have an Oneida Dust Deputy on the table saw, bolted to the side of
> > a 16 gallon shop vac.  It works very well, with filters in the
> > shop-vac lasting a year or so because 99.9% of the dust goes into
> > the 5 gallon bucket under the Deputy, with the main vac not even
> > getting enough to cover the bottom in a long time.
> >
> > But its both ex$pen$ive, and bulky, always in the way.  Way too big
> > to try and move it to my new mill.
> >
> > So, since I already had a bucket-max, (Shop-Vac product) which is a
> > vac motor mounted in a 5 gallon buckets lid, and had been using it
> > for a sucker on an R.O. hand sander with limited success, limited by
> > the life of a $15 to $30 filter.
> >
> > So I thought I'd see just how efficient a cylindrical cyclone might
> > work.
> >
> > At Lowes, a section of 4" sewer pipe, a floor flange, a 4" to 2"
> > adaptor, some 2 to 1.5 adaptors were bought.  Sawed off about a foot
> > of 4", clamped in on the mills table and milled the OD of a 1.5"
> > white plastic pipe into it, about 4" from one end so that its outer
> > wall matched the side of the 4", a tangent entry, glued the floor
> > flange to it, screwed that to the middle of a bucket lid, then cut
> > out the lid to the inner diameter of the flange.  Then solvent glued
> > a section of the 1.5" into the side of the 4", leaving enough length
> > to reach the wall and a 1.5" riser pipe up to the level of the top
> > of the machine where an elbow and short 1.5 nipple connected to a
> > radiator hose for flexability, which jumpers to some more plastic
> > pipe bolted to the side of the machine head. Suitable pieces get it
> > to the vicinity of the tool.
> >
> > On top of the 4", the 4 to 2 adaptor was glued on and a 2 to 1.5 was
> > bored out on the lathe so the 1.5" could be driven on in and its
> > bottom end placed about 3" below the side pipes entry all for a
> > tight friction fit.  This was then connected to the bucket-max,
> > machineing stuff on the lathe as required, with a couple elbows and
> > a horizontal run so the buckets could sit side by side on the floor.
> > Very little of it is glued so it can be popped apart for bucket
> > dumping etc.  And it all sits under the left end of the machines
> > table and out of traffic.
> >
> > Its now been collecting at least 99% of the machining dust, and the
> > buttons I'm making, plus the majority of the dust and finger cutouts
> > from the last few box parts machined.  The filter in the bucket-max
> > is still pretty clean after 3 weeks use, with almost nothing in its
> > bucket. The bucket under this contraption now has about 2.5" of
> > debris in it.
> >
> > The floor around the mill is staying pretty clean too, so I'd have
> > to say its a resounding success at "dust control".  Biggest problem
> > is the noise, I can't hear the phone when its running. The
> > bucket-max needs an exhaust muffler.  But it didn't cost me $200 to
> > buy set it up so it starts and stops with the saw either.
> >
> > I could post a couple pix if anyone wants to copy it.
> >
> > Suggested muffler designs appreciated, it is noisy.
> >
> > Not setup ATM, I do have an interface rigged so that the M8-M9
> > commands can start/stop the vacuum. But that got removed when that
> > big jig was removed after that part of the work for 3 of these was
> > all done.
> >
> > Cheers, Gene Heskett
>
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Cheers, Gene Heskett
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