> >>> As someone mentioned before a the an axis/joint may/will run away
> >>> in case of an encoder failure.
> >>> 
> >>> It would be possible to detect an encoder failure by comparing
> >>> output signal with encoder signal. A velocity signal may be
> >>> integrated and do not allow to wander to much or an encoder error
> >>> will be detected. A torque signal would be worse.
> >> 
> >> An encoder that fails into runaway (motion erroneously detected
> >> when none is occurring) or that fails into stop (no motion detected
> >> when motion *is* occurring) will both result in a following error,
> >> precisely for the reason you say above: linuxcnc compares the
> >> commanded position with the feedback position from the encoder.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> -- Sebastian Kuzminsky
> > 
> > No if no motion is detected and there is a small error linuxcnc will
> > output a signal to correct it and machine start to move. Since no
> > feedback is detected integrator will turn up speed and machine run
> > away.
> 
> Are you describing a scenario where the signals from the encoder are not
> getting to LinuxCNC?  So it always looks to linuxcnc like there is no
> motion happening, no matter what's actually happening in the motion
> hardware?
> 
> In that situation, if LinuxCNC is "at rest" and not commanding any
> motion, it's true that any small PID output will be applied forever,
> with no change in the feedback, and the motor will run away.
> 
> And you're suggesting to look at the PID output, and if it's commanding
> motion but the encoder is reporting no motion, then trigger some sort of
> "hardware malfunction" estop?
> 
> That sounds like it would work.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Sebastian Kuzminsky

Yes I am suggesting comparing the PID output and encoder input.


Nicklas Karlsson

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