with technology as it is these days , i just pay the person directly from bank to bank using either Paypal or Bank transfer , takes seconds . so long as you have access to a pc , or a smartphone
and the beneifit is it's all traceable so they cant say they never got it etc iv'e transfered moneys , gave the system a few mins , and the person i pay can check that the payments theirs , straight away all banks have a limit that if the amount is over , they internally check it for money laundering etc , in the UK it's £10,000 if i feel they might be a problem , i inform the bank 24 hrs before the transaction . up to now never had a problem . but their again the USA are werid ! LOL On 16 May 2016 at 01:21, Chris Albertson <[email protected]> wrote: > On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 4:24 PM, Nicklas Karlsson > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Well it is rather simple, justice should be paid by those who benefit or > unstable society is created. These kind of laws should be to stop crimes > not confiscate property. Confiscate property is called a fine and unless > paid property could be sold to get money. It should only be allowed to > confiscate property illegally transferred. Since value should not be > confiscated once fine is paid and other punishment is done value left > belong to the owner who ever it is. To put in another way the government > should not be allowed to take money for nothing not even from those they > claim are criminals because this is what usually is called theft. > > Hey thinks ARE getting better. In the past the cop would just take > the money and pocket it. Yes that is called theft but what's a drug > dealer to do about it? Then they past these "Civil Forfeiture'' laws > to formalize the process and make sure the money is shared with the > rest of the department. > > But as I said, it's getting better. Now everyone has a cell phone > that can record video so cops have to be a little bit more carful > > Better also as some new cars keep log files and can tell if the car > stopped at the light or how fast it was going or if a tail light was > in fact out. > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 15 May 2016 17:16:07 -0500 > > Jack Coats <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> The "Civil Forfeiture'' laws are what you are discussing. Yes, > traveling > >> with large amounts of cash seems to make you the target of this > especially > >> when traveling long distances. It is a law designed to help reduce the > >> drug trafficking by allowing law enforcement to capture suspected 'drug > >> money' and use it to supplement the budget of local law enforcement. ... > >> To many agencies are using it as a 'revenue enhancement tool' instead > and > >> not using it as the law was initially intended, especially since it is > >> easier to find and acquire and you don't have to do any ugly things like > >> take anyone to court or arrest them or marandize them. The are > effectively > >> 'arresting the money' or other assets, not the people carrying the > assets. > >> > >> Here in TN it has been a real problem and some laws are coming down to > make > >> it less 'profitable' for the agencies to use this law and to allow for > >> easier and faster recourse for the property owners to sue to get the > >> money/assets back. > >> > >> The way is its being described in the media is that if you are caught > with > >> large sums of money (in TN on I40, mainly going from East to West, since > >> drugs tend to flow West to East), the money is arrested, not the people > >> carrying it, because it is ASSUMED that large sums of money is ONLY > used to > >> purchase drugs. Some families on vacation, persons going to purchase > show > >> cars, etc seem to be the easy targets since many carry cash for this > >> purpose. I could see folks going to purchase large machine tools or > >> material could be caught in this fiasco as well. > >> > >> Locally there have been various expose's by TV anchors to get this > stopped, > >> or at least increase viewership. I guess it is working since > legislation > >> keeps coming up to stop this or at least curb the efforts. I do not > know > >> the current state of this legislation. > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> Mobile security can be enabling, not merely restricting. Employees who > >> bring their own devices (BYOD) to work are irked by the imposition of > MDM > >> restrictions. 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