On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 4:24 PM, Nicklas Karlsson <[email protected]> wrote: > Well it is rather simple, justice should be paid by those who benefit or > unstable society is created. These kind of laws should be to stop crimes not > confiscate property. Confiscate property is called a fine and unless paid > property could be sold to get money. It should only be allowed to confiscate > property illegally transferred. Since value should not be confiscated once > fine is paid and other punishment is done value left belong to the owner who > ever it is. To put in another way the government should not be allowed to > take money for nothing not even from those they claim are criminals because > this is what usually is called theft.
Hey thinks ARE getting better. In the past the cop would just take the money and pocket it. Yes that is called theft but what's a drug dealer to do about it? Then they past these "Civil Forfeiture'' laws to formalize the process and make sure the money is shared with the rest of the department. But as I said, it's getting better. Now everyone has a cell phone that can record video so cops have to be a little bit more carful Better also as some new cars keep log files and can tell if the car stopped at the light or how fast it was going or if a tail light was in fact out. > > > On Sun, 15 May 2016 17:16:07 -0500 > Jack Coats <[email protected]> wrote: > >> The "Civil Forfeiture'' laws are what you are discussing. Yes, traveling >> with large amounts of cash seems to make you the target of this especially >> when traveling long distances. It is a law designed to help reduce the >> drug trafficking by allowing law enforcement to capture suspected 'drug >> money' and use it to supplement the budget of local law enforcement. ... >> To many agencies are using it as a 'revenue enhancement tool' instead and >> not using it as the law was initially intended, especially since it is >> easier to find and acquire and you don't have to do any ugly things like >> take anyone to court or arrest them or marandize them. The are effectively >> 'arresting the money' or other assets, not the people carrying the assets. >> >> Here in TN it has been a real problem and some laws are coming down to make >> it less 'profitable' for the agencies to use this law and to allow for >> easier and faster recourse for the property owners to sue to get the >> money/assets back. >> >> The way is its being described in the media is that if you are caught with >> large sums of money (in TN on I40, mainly going from East to West, since >> drugs tend to flow West to East), the money is arrested, not the people >> carrying it, because it is ASSUMED that large sums of money is ONLY used to >> purchase drugs. Some families on vacation, persons going to purchase show >> cars, etc seem to be the easy targets since many carry cash for this >> purpose. I could see folks going to purchase large machine tools or >> material could be caught in this fiasco as well. >> >> Locally there have been various expose's by TV anchors to get this stopped, >> or at least increase viewership. I guess it is working since legislation >> keeps coming up to stop this or at least curb the efforts. I do not know >> the current state of this legislation. >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Mobile security can be enabling, not merely restricting. Employees who >> bring their own devices (BYOD) to work are irked by the imposition of MDM >> restrictions. Mobile Device Manager Plus allows you to control only the >> apps on BYO-devices by containerizing them, leaving personal data untouched! >> https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/304595813;131938128;j >> _______________________________________________ >> Emc-users mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Mobile security can be enabling, not merely restricting. Employees who > bring their own devices (BYOD) to work are irked by the imposition of MDM > restrictions. Mobile Device Manager Plus allows you to control only the > apps on BYO-devices by containerizing them, leaving personal data untouched! > https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/304595813;131938128;j > _______________________________________________ > Emc-users mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Chris Albertson Redondo Beach, California ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mobile security can be enabling, not merely restricting. Employees who bring their own devices (BYOD) to work are irked by the imposition of MDM restrictions. Mobile Device Manager Plus allows you to control only the apps on BYO-devices by containerizing them, leaving personal data untouched! https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/304595813;131938128;j _______________________________________________ Emc-users mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
