I believe this is open loop. Isn’t PID only used in closed loop control?

On Thu, May 7, 2020 at 11:03 AM Gene Heskett <ghesk...@shentel.net> wrote:

> On Thursday 07 May 2020 11:27:57 Jon Elson wrote:
>
> > On 05/06/2020 09:20 PM, Dan Henderson wrote:
> > > I’ve confirmed the fluctuation occurs when spindle-at-speed is
> > > configured. When I remove this feature, the spindle rpm appears to
> > > stabilize. It’s almost like it gets caught in a loop trying to chase
> > > its tail.
> >
> > This is VERY common in servo systems, and is due to delay in
> > response of the object being controlled.
> > You need to slow down the response of the PID to ignore the
> > delay. This may be possible by adding
> > D to it.
> >
> > Jon
>
> But my msg was that a near module generated spindle.N.at-speed was never
> to be injected into any signal path leading back to a PID.  That near's
> output s/b only to that input to motion, and possibly to an indicator
> led in the gui so the operator can be advised if its acting funkity.
> Flickering could be worn brushes in a brushed PMDC motor for instance.
>
> What you are describing as delays can often be fixed by the proper
> re-ordering of the addf's involved for the oscillating axis. That aspect
> of configuring LinuxCNC hasn't been mentioned recently or I wouldn't
> even have included that paragraph in my reply.
>
> And from Dan's description above, I think this is an entirely different
> critter from a timeing delay.
>
> Cheers Jon & stay well, Gene Heskett
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