It’s common practice to have a fan on the ‘cold end’ of the print head to keep 
the heater and motor from prematurely softening the filament.

N. Christopher Perry

> On May 31, 2020, at 1:29 PM, Chris Albertson <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> Use a metal hub on the gear, especially if it connects directly to a motor
> that gets hot.   The other thing is to use ABS plastic or maybe PET
> plastic.  PLA is easy to print but has the lowest melt temperature.
> 
> I had the idea the other day to make the metal gear hub extend well past
> the end of the motor shaft and then cut some groves so it might act as a
> heat sink.
> 
> You really have to measure the shaft temperature after an hour of warm-up.
> "Can't touch it" covers a wide range of temperatures.   it is had to keep
> your hand on an object that is just 60C but the PLA works well enough at
> 60C.      But 120C is to warm for PLA.
> 
> As I said earlier, with a gear r pulley, all the stress is on the hub, not
> the teeth so make the metal.  Tell you cad system you want (1) a 24mm hole
> and (2) a hub width about 2X the gear's face width.   This gives lots of
> plastic the metal surface area.   PLA is about 1/3rd as strong as metal so
> so a large diameter and wide design is correct.
> 
> As for dimensional accuracy.   Print a hockey puck that is about the size
> of the parts you want to make and measure the puck.  YOu only have to do
> this once for each plastic and print temperature.     NOTE:  Write which
> way is X and which is Y on the puck before you remove it from the printer.
> Measure both X and Y and Z with calipers.
> 
> If the puck is monimally 100mm diameter when you drew it n the CAD system
> and prints are 99.5, you know then you have to make them 0.5% larger
> 
> The percent will change with size.   I assume no one prints solid plastic
> and we all use 15 to 50 percent infill.    3D printed parts are not uniform
> material but a shell and infill.
> 
> 
> All that said, just ignore all this untill you can make everything work
> Pulleys and gears have teeth ad keep their ratio even if printed 2% wrong
> size.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 9:11 AM Martin Dobbins <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Caveats:
>> 
>> 1:I'm not a 3d printer user, but I may become one after reading this
>> thread: Thanks (I think<grin>)
>> 
>> 2:I have very little experience with Openscad.
>> 
>> Serve the required grains of salt with the following as required
>> 
>> Gene Heskett wrote:
>> 
>>> 1; Which is a measure of the OD of the rendered pulley, those areas of
>>> the preview gfx are blank, although the scale marks are there, they are
>>> drawn behind the sprocket image. so one could get a very rough idea of
>>> the total radius of the finished gear in mm.  Am I missing a font, or is
>>> this a more serious concern that will need me to make the gear before I
>>> can determine how it fits?
>> 
>> Melted plastic contracts as it cools, so getting something on size is an
>> iterative process
>> 
>> Print, measure, calculate percentage shrinkage and reprint that percentage
>> oversize.  I understand that most slicer
>> 
>> software includes an easy way of doing this (at least I hope so). Rinse
>> and repeat to get something that meets
>> 
>> tolerances.  I don't know the answer to the openscad rendering question,
>> but don't you have the parameter values
>> 
>> for everything drawn?
>> 
>> 
>>> 2; This motor runs uncomfortably hot, and I've not found anything to
>>> indicate the controller goes into a low current mode at balance, I left
>>> it running at about 1500 revs for half an hour and cannot lay a hand on
>>> it to pick it up, and an extended stop didn't seem to cool it any, and
>>> since that heat will telegraph up the  motors 8mm shaft to the PLA, is
>>> this going to be a life of the sprocket limiting factor because the PLA
>>> will soften and eventually cold flow to a loose and likely out of
>>> concentricity warpage?
>> 
>> That's something that you can figure out now, melt temperature and (I just
>> found out from the link below)
>> 
>> glass transition temperature 111 to 145F.  Can you squeeze a metallic hub
>> in? Or maybe an aluminum heat sink
>> 
>> on the shaft between the motor and where the gear will sit?
>> 
>> 
>> https://www.creativemechanisms.com/blog/learn-about-polylactic-acid-pla-prototypes
>> 
>> 
>>> 3; I have the pi3b I took off the Sheldon, and another of those 5v5a
>>> supplies, and I've downloaded the octo-pi image that includes that
>>> slicer.  So that I think solves the slic3r problem of having to compose
>>> a working multi-variable config for slic3r.  Unless someone has a slic3r
>>> config to drive an Ender that they can share.
>> 
>> Nope, but a google search found this-any good?
>> 
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yIebnVjADM
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I hope some of that helps?
>> 
>> Martin
>> 
>> 
>> 
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