On Thursday 17 September 2020 15:23:00 Glenn Edwards wrote:

> Bruce,
>
> Yes and No.  ASME, like EAA, would act as a distributor or reseller. 
> ASME has a membership problem, declining badly over the years, and
> needs a way of attracting new blood especially the recent grads and
> independent consultants: many of whom are underemployed at this time. 
> And SW pricing is aimed at the corporate world.  The two- ASME and SW-
> can meet in the middle and both benefit..
>
> Glenn
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 11:57 AM Bruce Layne
> <linux...@thinkingdevices.com>
>
> wrote:
> > On 9/17/20 2:33 PM, Glenn Edwards wrote:
> > > I am a member of ASME and they should be doing something like
> > > this- I will contact my local chapter.
> >
> > You're looking at this from the end user perspective.  Yes, it would
> > be very appreciated if the ASME included a $4000 software license as
> > a benefit of membership.  I think the correct perspective for
> > analyzing this is the vendor's perspective as they decide who pays
> > what for their software.  The incremental price of software is
> > nearly zero, so the price of software in the marketing world is
> > whatever the customer will pay.  Experimental Aircraft Association
> > members aren't going to pay for Solidworks, so they can have it as a
> > benefit of EAA membership.  ASME members are the targeted market for
> > Solidworks, so they're expected to pay the $4,000 or $8,000 up front
> > and $1300 per year thereafter.
> >
> > I'm a very happy FreeCAD user.  It's not as polished nor as feature
> > rich as Solidworks, Fusion360, etc., but it does more than I need
> > and I'm not worried about exporting all of my designs to
> > non-proprietary file formats because I live in constant fear that my
> > CAD vendor is going to unilaterally change the rules and the designs
> > that I created will be held hostage and exorbitant sums will be
> > extorted from me to continue using the tools I know to access the
> > designs I created.

Your designs are yours according to copyright law. Any EULA that says 
otherwise or holds that data for ransom should not be signed, to me its 
a full stop, back away.  If you can't save your work, in a standard 
format understood by other similar SW, on your own storage media, full 
stop, you are dealing with rectums.

> > Remember Darth Vader in Lando's cloud city?
> >
> > CAD User:  We had an agreement!
> >
> > CAD Vendor:  I'm altering our agreement.  Pray I don't alter it
> > further.

I would be very reticent to deal with solidworks again. I made the 
mistake of downloading their 30 day free trial, something like a decade 
and change back, It refused to run on BDI, and on hardy I think it was, 
so I never got a chance to even look at its opening screen.

I sent several requests for help, all ignored.  But you can bet the farm 
they didn't miss sending me an email bill for the whole thing about 2x a 
week for at least a year. I fed them all to sa-learn spam. And they 
stopped eventually. I updated the machines and wiped it out long before 
they quit billing me.

So am not about to deal with them again.  Be wary of solidworks, very 
wary.  Zip support, even its it to promote the sale.

I think its time to put our combined money where it will do US some good, 
supporting Freecad's continued development seems like a hell of a good 
idea to me. V19's appimage stability is great.

But I've not a clue if those guys are setup to accept donations to fund 
feature requests.  Remember, there is one PRIME LAW in this universe, 
TANSTAAFL.  In the long view you can't violate it even if you tried.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
 - Louis D. Brandeis
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>


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