I always liked the rotary click wheel on many CRT monitors. Nice big wheel with 
an offset dimple. Put fingertip in dimple and push to get the menu, spin to 
highlight the configuration option then push. Spin again to select (for 
example) vertical position then push and spin to move the raster up or down. No 
slower (for me it was faster) than a mouse interface with "spin" controls that 
scroll a list or change a number. Only took me a few seconds to have a CRT's 
image all tweaked. That's why people lamented the loss of the clickwheel on 
iPods. It was FAST, easy to use, and didn't need eyes on it to be able to use 
it.
 
My current LCD has five buttons on the back. Only the bottom one (on/off) has a 
tiny bump. The other four are ??? and after the menu is brought up, their 
positions don't align with the order of the menu selections so one is literally 
poking around blindly trying to find what does what. Even a row of clearly 
labeled buttons on the front of a monitor was slower than a click wheel. If TV 
and monitor designers want a "blind poking" physical interface tucked around on 
the back side, they should bring back the click wheel. I have a couple of 
Samsung TVs that have, of all things, a tiny joystick *and* some buttons on the 
back. Now that is a crazy thing.

    On Tuesday, June 1, 2021, 7:38:13 PM MDT, John Dammeyer 
<[email protected]> wrote:  
 Personally I like the tactile feedback of a button that moves.  But moving 
from buttons over to a mouse to then select entries is tedious so I can see 
either a number of buttons or a touch screen for that sort of thing.

For the same reason I really detest those interfaces based on Arduino's that, 
due to limited I/O use a rotary knob and button to select from all sorts of 
menus.  Or worse test enter each digit one at a time using the rotary knob.
Shudder!!!!

Way back HP had the right idea with what they called soft keys.  A row of 
mechanical buttons along the edges of the screen to select options displayed 
beside the button.  My Tek scope has those and the stupid rotary knobs.  
Invariably since they have two of those I tend to choose the wrong one first.

But to design such a user screen for LinuxCNC implies you also have to provide 
the buttons (and maybe a knob).  Easy to do with CANopen or ModBus or if you 
have one of the high i/o count MESA boards but then you are also running a 
bundle of wires up rather than a network cable.

Thanks for the feedback.
John Dammeyer  
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