On 6/29/21 5:17 PM, Valerio Bellizzomi wrote:
On Tue, 2021-06-29 at 17:07 -0600, R C wrote:
On 6/29/21 4:54 PM, Valerio Bellizzomi wrote:
Could you please try to avoid reading too literally and instead try
to
understand the broad sense of what I write?
I can try, but I am not good at reading minds, it's not my problem
you
didn't say what you meant.

I said exactly what I meant, but for some (unknow to me) reason you
don't interpret it as I do:
That's because your comparison is/was wrong.
I presume that good organization is
necessary to avoid the chaos that can sometimes arise in human
interactions.

No it isn't, chaos arises because of people disagreeing, hence what you call good organization isn't necessarily interpreted as good by others and creates chaos.


  The fact that LinuxCNC succeeded without organization is
pure luck in my opinion, in general human communities organize
themselves to avoid being overwhelmed by chaos and to facilitate the
resolution of internal conflicts.

No I think they succeeded, because these "guys" doing this are very good at what they are doing, are knowledgeable, and like doing this for others to enjoy this software (which I definitely do).



Also, I am done with this conversation..   I go with the guy with the "be kind sign" email,  I think that is what we should have as a CoC (and I didn't see inclusive etc etc in the definition of 'kind')


over and out.



Also, I changed my mind  ......

hey all, can we still have that CoC? with that one rule in it that
said
something about not telling others what to do, or something like
that.


On Tue, 2021-06-29 at 16:39 -0600, R C wrote:
On 6/29/21 4:19 PM, Valerio Bellizzomi wrote:
On Tue, 2021-06-29 at 16:29 -0500, Bari wrote:
On 6/29/21 4:12 PM, Valerio Bellizzomi wrote:

again, eccept for an evasive and dumb answer, there is
still
no
why...
let me guess,  you don't really have one other then a
controlling
vague one.
The why is evident, we don't live in a ruleless world, even
nature
and
animal groups have their survival rules.

It is a question of survival of the community as a cohesive
group.
I thought that LCNC is an open source software project. What
is
this
dramatic talk of animal survival?
as humans we are evoluted animals and human collectivity
follows
the
same survival rules. That is only for comparison.
those are not rules, those are laws deducted from what is
observed,
same/similar to  physical laws (like the law of gravity).

Animals don't have rules on how to behave, there might be some
very
primal ones based on picking order, power.

for example, a coyote doesn't give a damn that there is a rule
not
to
attack poodles, the only reason for it not to attack the poodle
is if
it
were more dangerous for the coyote then for the poodle.

Evolution does have NOTHING to do with rules, it is a pattern, "a
scientific law" that  is assumed and proven because of
observations.


Also, you cannot compare something, with something else that is
false
or
doesn't make sense,  that is nonsense, a moot point in any
argument.


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