I'd also add another bit to this: - spacing
E themes are very constrained, everything is tight, fonts are small by default... okay, this used to help when we used 640x480 desktops, but nowadays there is plenty of space and a bit more of padding around elements (ie: menu) and larger fonts by default wouldn't hurt... On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 8:29 PM, Stephen Houston <[email protected]> wrote: > I created a phab ticket for those who are going to tldr: > https://phab.enlightenment.org/T6708 > > Please respond and help us address this issue on Phab. I'm sending the > mail to bring attention to those who aren't checking phab or didn't get > tagged in the ticket. > > This is the summary of the issue: > We constantly get criticized for our less than modern look. I feel as > though most users could let some of the other inefficiencies and issues go > if our theme at least looked good. And aesthetically, accessibility, and > statistically the type of theme that is going to appeal to the most users > is not going to be a dark theme. We can still have the dark theme as an > option, but we shouldn't ship it as default, and this include's raster's > updated theme flat which is basically just a flattened version of dark. > Look around and literalliy no one ships with a dark theme. Windows, Mac OS, > Android, Chrome, I OS, Gnome, KDE, XFCE, etc..., etc..., etc... there is a > reason. The out of the box experience should cover the largest base of > users possible. A dark theme is not going to accomplish that. A dark theme > is a niche. Cedric has addressed this already with the website and it also > applies to our default theme. Both need to be redone and really there > should be an emphasis on this theming over development at this point > because it is the appearance that is costing us users not functionality. I > see it every day in online forums, chats, irc, blogs about E, etc..., > etc..., etc... We REALLY need to prioritize this and theme, and do it the > right way. Google material design has been suggested by many as what we > should do. I'm not sure. Cedric's push to work on our appearance was not > met well or accepted among our developers, but simply this has to change. > It is killing us. I've attached an IRC discussion in #edevelop from several > developers about this theming. I wanted to put it here on Phab and allow us > to all have a discussion to work this out. This really is a serious issue > and I hope this is addressed and not just blown off for personal > preferences or lack of passion about doing a theme. Seriously do some > research and contribute this discussion unbiasedly. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > _______________________________________________ > enlightenment-devel mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel -- Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri -------------------------------------- Mobile: +55 (16) 99354-9890 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot _______________________________________________ enlightenment-devel mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
