On Mon, 19 Feb 2018 10:37:58 -0500 "William L. Thomson Jr." <wlt...@obsidian-studios.com> said:
> On Sun, 18 Feb 2018 19:54:23 +0000 > Stephen Houston <smhousto...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > None of which are default, as I said. Open windows explorer. Is it > > dark? Open finder is it dark? Dark bars And titlebars don't mean it's > > a dark theme. As I said. Defaults are always light. > > That is the default windows 10, and a screenshot of the next release of > OS X. Those are defaults. The are moving more things to dark, that were > light in the past. > > What color were the start/title bars before? Light or dark? Which > direction is that going? Is that a trend moving towards light or dark? > > This is not light > https://www.gnome.org/gnome-3/ > > Or Cinnamon/Linux Mint > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinnamon_(software) > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Mint > > Matte and Cinamon would be interesting as its basically the same Mint, > difference being light and dark. > > For those that voted for KDE, the majority voted dark. > http://www.strawpoll.me/12804942/r > https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/66yznn/poll_dark_themes_vs_light_themes_kde_plasma/?st=jdt8a686&sh=535dd9f5 now that is very interesting. a direct poll from more than a handful of people (235 votes cast total) shows 71% in favor of dark. and that's not even like asking existing e users who might have chosen e because it's dark by default... so at least i think that pretty much tells me that "Dark by default" at least is a good choice. 71% are happy. the other 29% are not. that is why we should offer color schemes (color classes) so you can make the other 29% happy too. that increases the # of people who are happy by 50% or so. > I think this helps really solidify the trend. Black uses less power > than white. Dark themes can have better battery life. > https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1882467 Actually... only on OLED screens... just to be exact. lcd panels which is basically pretty much every monitor, laptop etc. ... won't matter. yes a few laptops have oled. you can get oled tv's now but its far from the majority of screens an e desktop runs on that would use the default theme. :) > Very likely manufactures are catching on. Better for battery life, > better for your eyes. Better all around. > > If you think a theme is why people do not run E. I think you are pretty > far off base there. It is a lack of applications more than anything. i think despite our differences, you are probably right here, mostly. i think e's old-style beveled/gradient theme does put a bunch of people off. i don't think the dark color does though. if more apps existed that "fit in and work/look nice" then indeed it'd get more users. e can be improved in usability for sure as well - settings dialogs for starters, and i suspect this may have about as much effect on users as the theme currently does... just saying it's important. but improving the theme to be simpler to maintain, re-color and be flatter is a big improvement we should do. i think giving it out-sized results from doing this, or even becoming "light" will just be kidding ourselves. -- ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- Carsten Haitzler - ras...@rasterman.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot _______________________________________________ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel