On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 09:24:14 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> the real problem is introducing cvs as a build and rebuild dep (which
> it never was before - cvs was entirely divorced and separate from
> build file creation - which allowed us to divorce CMS from coding if
> we ever wanted to). sure it'd need the cvs command - but it's
> sneaking in. it feels very unclean to me. i see the logic of using
> cvs as a compression scheme for multiple versions of gettext, but
> where autofoo used to be basic unix utils + m4 now is stealing away
> with cvs too. we are forever changing out autofoo - mostly for the
> next user X who uses gentoo or some bleeding edge distro who updates
> to latest bleeding edge autofoo X and breaks something.

Another major problem, at least as far as I'm concerned, is that
autotools is forever trying to sneak in GPL licenses and FSF
copyrights.  I've pointed this out to Marc-Andre in private emails,
and I probably mentioned this the last time around.  E17 is BSD licensed
and copyright Raster + friends, but the use of autopoint generates files
that claim FSF copyright over parts of E17.

Other projects that use autotools work quite happily by stating the
version of autotools required.  Since autotools is a developer tool
that is not normally used by ordinary users (even if they are compiling
from source) specifying specific versions is quite valid, it keeps all
the developers on the same page, and reduces the complexities of
supporting various systems.  So we can stop wasting time supporting the
latest bleeding edge autotools, stick with what has worked for years,
and get on with E coding.

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