On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 14:33:08 -0400
Ross Vandegrift <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Sun, Jul 15, 2007 at 11:15:45AM -0700, Daniel Patterson wrote:
> > Using any Gnome daemon ties in gnome dependencies
> 
> Nope.  NetworkManager is designed to be agnostic to any particular
> environment.  KDE uses it for it's backend as well.  From my box:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ apt-cache depends network-manager
> network-manager
>   Depends: libc6
>   Depends: libdbus-1-3
>   Depends: libdbus-glib-1-2
>   Depends: libgcrypt11
>   Depends: libglib2.0-0
>   Depends: libgpg-error0
>   Depends: libhal1
>   Depends: libiw28
>   Depends: libnl1-pre6
>   Depends: libnm-util0
>   Depends: iproute
>   Depends: iputils-arping
>   Depends: dhcdbd
>   Depends: lsb-base
>   Depends: wpasupplicant
>   Depends: dbus
>   Depends: hal
>   Depends: ifupdown
>  |Recommends: network-manager-gnome
>   Recommends: <network-manager-kde>
>     knetworkmanager
> 
> 
> I suppose you might take issue with glib, hal, or dbus, but have fun
> with lots of things at that point...
> 
> 
> > not...). if you had a frontend that could bring up network
> > (dhclient or dhcpcd), or wireless (iwconfig, or wlanconfig), and
> > ppp (pppd), I think you would have a pretty nice application...
> > though I'm not sure why they should be integrated, just make three
> > nice separate apps! 
> 
> Because it's awesome to be lazy.  I've temporary gone back to Gnome on
> my laptop explicity because of NetworkManager support.  I take my
> laptop all over town and my network only ever needs to be configured
> once.  It remembers what networks work, and if I plug in the wired
> ethernet, it doesn't worry about wireless.
> 
> I'm not sure why you think this is "more trouble than it's worth".
> It's easy, non-intrusive, and works in all cases I've encountered at
> work/home/coffee shop.
> 

I stand corrected... what I said was based on personal experience with
it a while ago (around a year)... I tried to install it and it pulled in
twenty to thirty dependencies... perhaps something was wrong with it in
its early stages, or it was mistakingly pulling in something it did not
actually need.

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