On Sun, Jul 15, 2007 at 01:27:44PM -0600, Eric Wasylishen wrote:
> The client part just needs dbus, and since e already uses e_dbus that
> dependency wouldn't be a problem.

As Brian said and I found out, e_dbus actually has some NM binding in
place already.  I've started building an EWL app that can talk to NM
and have it reading a device list from there.  The API in e_dbus has
needed some work - bits of it were broken and there's a lot of
functionality that it's missing.  I've been adding that code as I go.
Except some code soon!

Ross

> 
> On 7/15/07, Daniel Patterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 14:33:08 -0400
> > Ross Vandegrift <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > On Sun, Jul 15, 2007 at 11:15:45AM -0700, Daniel Patterson wrote:
> > > > Using any Gnome daemon ties in gnome dependencies
> > >
> > > Nope.  NetworkManager is designed to be agnostic to any particular
> > > environment.  KDE uses it for it's backend as well.  From my box:
> > >
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ apt-cache depends network-manager
> > > network-manager
> > >   Depends: libc6
> > >   Depends: libdbus-1-3
> > >   Depends: libdbus-glib-1-2
> > >   Depends: libgcrypt11
> > >   Depends: libglib2.0-0
> > >   Depends: libgpg-error0
> > >   Depends: libhal1
> > >   Depends: libiw28
> > >   Depends: libnl1-pre6
> > >   Depends: libnm-util0
> > >   Depends: iproute
> > >   Depends: iputils-arping
> > >   Depends: dhcdbd
> > >   Depends: lsb-base
> > >   Depends: wpasupplicant
> > >   Depends: dbus
> > >   Depends: hal
> > >   Depends: ifupdown
> > >  |Recommends: network-manager-gnome
> > >   Recommends: <network-manager-kde>
> > >     knetworkmanager
> > >
> > >
> > > I suppose you might take issue with glib, hal, or dbus, but have fun
> > > with lots of things at that point...
> > >
> > >
> > > > not...). if you had a frontend that could bring up network
> > > > (dhclient or dhcpcd), or wireless (iwconfig, or wlanconfig), and
> > > > ppp (pppd), I think you would have a pretty nice application...
> > > > though I'm not sure why they should be integrated, just make three
> > > > nice separate apps!
> > >
> > > Because it's awesome to be lazy.  I've temporary gone back to Gnome on
> > > my laptop explicity because of NetworkManager support.  I take my
> > > laptop all over town and my network only ever needs to be configured
> > > once.  It remembers what networks work, and if I plug in the wired
> > > ethernet, it doesn't worry about wireless.
> > >
> > > I'm not sure why you think this is "more trouble than it's worth".
> > > It's easy, non-intrusive, and works in all cases I've encountered at
> > > work/home/coffee shop.
> > >
> >
> > I stand corrected... what I said was based on personal experience with
> > it a while ago (around a year)... I tried to install it and it pulled in
> > twenty to thirty dependencies... perhaps something was wrong with it in
> > its early stages, or it was mistakingly pulling in something it did not
> > actually need.
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