On Mon, Jul 16, 2007 at 10:55:36AM +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
> networkmanager also handles ppp and pppoe? didn't know that. last i checked it
> just did ethernet and 802.11. well then making a front end to NM is probably a
> good way to go.

Actually, you're right.  I saw PPTP and figured it could also do ppp
since that uses pppd at some level.  So we still need the ppp app.

> (personally i believe that a file owned by the user and only
> readable by the user is enough - sure root can read it, but how many boxes
> where a user CAN select networks is there going to be an unfriendly root user
> who doesn't already know these things or can't find them out easily). there is
> the danger of "trojans" digging these files up - but once you have a
> trojan/virus running as that user - they can do a lot of damage in terms of
> finding out personal and sensitive info... is it worth the effort to try
> encrypt and then require decryption passphrases etc.

I'm glad you feel this way - I wasn't really looking forward to the
gnome-keychain model of constantly asking the user for passwords.  I
lasted less than a week with that before I modified my pam to shut it
the hell up...

Ross

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"The good Christian should beware of mathematicians, and all those who
make empty prophecies. The danger already exists that the mathematicians
have made a covenant with the devil to darken the spirit and to confine
man in the bonds of Hell."
        --St. Augustine, De Genesi ad Litteram, Book II, xviii, 37

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