On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 11:13:39 -0400 Ross Vandegrift <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:

> On Sun, Jul 15, 2007 at 04:09:06PM +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
> > that's cool - though maybe it would make sense to have a general "network"
> > config tool that handles modem+ppp, ethernet+pppoe, wireless lan, normal lan
> > (dhcp, static ip etc.)... ? basically there comes a time when all network
> > connections somehow have to know about eachother and interact. this does
> > mean digging into lower level system configs and management of these, BUT,
> > you want to be able to:
> > 
> > 1. use wired lan UNLESS its unplugged - then use wireless LAN
> > 2. if these don't work, and a phone line is attached, dial in
> > 3. maybe have multiple connections up at once but route different.
> > 4. modify the above preference list.
> > etc.
> 
> All that needs to be done is implement a front end to Gnome's
> NetworkManager daemon and we'll get all of this for free plus VPN.  I've
> poked around with idea a few weekends, but unfortunately, there's no
> documentation on how a client application interacts with the daemon,
> only Gnome's nm-applet source code, so I don't really have anything to
> show.

networkmanager also handles ppp and pppoe? didn't know that. last i checked it
just did ethernet and 802.11. well then making a front end to NM is probably a
good way to go. from what i read about NM is that it is up to the front end to
provide things like network key, username, password etc. etc. when requested
(as the back-end doesn't store it), so the front end needs a way to store these
things SECURLEY. (personally i believe that a file owned by the user and only
readable by the user is enough - sure root can read it, but how many boxes
where a user CAN select networks is there going to be an unfriendly root user
who doesn't already know these things or can't find them out easily). there is
the danger of "trojans" digging these files up - but once you have a
trojan/virus running as that user - they can do a lot of damage in terms of
finding out personal and sensitive info... is it worth the effort to try
encrypt and then require decryption passphrases etc.

> Ross
> 
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> Ross Vandegrift
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> have made a covenant with the devil to darken the spirit and to confine
> man in the bonds of Hell."
>       --St. Augustine, De Genesi ad Litteram, Book II, xviii, 37
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