I think a networkmanager module for e17 would be fantastic. IMO,
networkmanager is a great example of technology "just working."

There are some docs and examples in their svn:
http://svn.gnome.org/viewcvs/NetworkManager/trunk/

The client part just needs dbus, and since e already uses e_dbus that
dependency wouldn't be a problem.

On 7/15/07, Daniel Patterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 14:33:08 -0400
> Ross Vandegrift <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > On Sun, Jul 15, 2007 at 11:15:45AM -0700, Daniel Patterson wrote:
> > > Using any Gnome daemon ties in gnome dependencies
> >
> > Nope.  NetworkManager is designed to be agnostic to any particular
> > environment.  KDE uses it for it's backend as well.  From my box:
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ apt-cache depends network-manager
> > network-manager
> >   Depends: libc6
> >   Depends: libdbus-1-3
> >   Depends: libdbus-glib-1-2
> >   Depends: libgcrypt11
> >   Depends: libglib2.0-0
> >   Depends: libgpg-error0
> >   Depends: libhal1
> >   Depends: libiw28
> >   Depends: libnl1-pre6
> >   Depends: libnm-util0
> >   Depends: iproute
> >   Depends: iputils-arping
> >   Depends: dhcdbd
> >   Depends: lsb-base
> >   Depends: wpasupplicant
> >   Depends: dbus
> >   Depends: hal
> >   Depends: ifupdown
> >  |Recommends: network-manager-gnome
> >   Recommends: <network-manager-kde>
> >     knetworkmanager
> >
> >
> > I suppose you might take issue with glib, hal, or dbus, but have fun
> > with lots of things at that point...
> >
> >
> > > not...). if you had a frontend that could bring up network
> > > (dhclient or dhcpcd), or wireless (iwconfig, or wlanconfig), and
> > > ppp (pppd), I think you would have a pretty nice application...
> > > though I'm not sure why they should be integrated, just make three
> > > nice separate apps!
> >
> > Because it's awesome to be lazy.  I've temporary gone back to Gnome on
> > my laptop explicity because of NetworkManager support.  I take my
> > laptop all over town and my network only ever needs to be configured
> > once.  It remembers what networks work, and if I plug in the wired
> > ethernet, it doesn't worry about wireless.
> >
> > I'm not sure why you think this is "more trouble than it's worth".
> > It's easy, non-intrusive, and works in all cases I've encountered at
> > work/home/coffee shop.
> >
>
> I stand corrected... what I said was based on personal experience with
> it a while ago (around a year)... I tried to install it and it pulled in
> twenty to thirty dependencies... perhaps something was wrong with it in
> its early stages, or it was mistakingly pulling in something it did not
> actually need.
>
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