On Mon, 7 Nov 2011 22:48:04 +1000 David Seikel <onef...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 7 Nov 2011 21:36:43 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)
> <ras...@rasterman.com> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 7 Nov 2011 11:00:24 +0100 Raoul Hecky
> > <raoul.he...@gmail.com> said:
> >
> > > Le lundi 7 novembre 2011 04:33:10, Carsten Haitzler a écrit :
> > > > attached. this was a sample edc that would be able to play
> > > > audio, not just single samples but whole sequences across
> > > > multiple tracks as well as control specific channels and
> > > > tracks. it didn't specify looping params yet or other
> > > > additional stuff.
> > >
> > > Such a huge thing just to play sound in edje... Is it really
> > > necessary to have all this in edje or are you just nostalgic of
> > > the good old days of trackers??
> >
> > DAMNED STRAIGHT I AM! :) i just discovered milkytracker! i'm
> > enjoying myself thoroughly! :)
> >
> > seriously though... you CAN still just play samples.. then play
> > samples WITH volume envelopes and looping (sounds as this glues
> > sample+envelopes) and then play entire sequences (a series of
> > samples played with timing), which is the basics for most musical
> > scoring, then combine these into multiple track patterns and put
> > them together into whole songs if u want. it drops down to the
> > simple and up to the whole "compose a whole score" end of things.
> >
> > if all you ever choose to do is play samples - then its largely
> > irrelevant. reality is that if you want to have complex sound
> > effects you need to start doing all of these little bits. :)
> >
> > let me give an example. scrolling.
> >
> > you want to play some "wind blowing" when you first start to drag -
> > this may consist of 2 or 3 channels of sound with various wind
> > samples overlayed at staggered intervals to give the impression of
> > something that isn't always looping and repeating (it's a neat trick
> > you also can do with overlayed images). you want this "song" to fade
> > in then keep looping a few patterns where you really are using 5 or
> > so 5 second samples to create several minutes of wind sound. now
> > when you actually MOVE your mouse (or finger) you year some
> > "tinkling" sounds that sound like the small glass bells being
> > shaken. these play and fade out becoming quieter the slower your
> > drag and varying pitch depending on how high or low your position
> > is on the scroll range. you would implement these with another few
> > tacks like the wind, applying modifiers for pitch and volume of the
> > play instructions. the bell sample can be 2 or 3 samples like the
> > wind to give the impression of many distinct bells, just played at
> > differing speeds for pitches (you can normally go up 1 octave
> > before it sounds just odd and want to get a new sampling).
>
> I'm excited by that. B-)
>
> However, with multisense turned on (Ubuntu 10.04, sndfile 1.0.21),
> when it gets to compiling elementary's edje files I get -
>
> /opt/e17/bin/edje_cc -id ../../data/themes -fd ../../data/themes \
> <------>../../data/themes/default.edc \
> <------>../../data/themes/default.edj
> /opt/e17/bin/edje_cc -id ../../data/themes -fd ../../data/themes \
> <------>../../data/themes/default-desktop.edc \
> <------>../../data/themes/default-desktop.edj
> ALSA player_plugin init fail
> Couldn't open any output device.
> ALSA player_plugin init fail
> Couldn't open any output device.
> make[3]: Leaving directory
> `/home/dvs1/e17_svn/SVN/trunk/elementary/data/themes' Making all in
> images make[3]: Entering directory
> `/home/dvs1/e17_svn/SVN/trunk/elementary/data/images' make[3]: Nothing
> to be done for `all'. make[3]: Leaving directory
> `/home/dvs1/e17_svn/SVN/trunk/elementary/data/images' Making all in
> objects make[3]: Entering directory
> `/home/dvs1/e17_svn/SVN/trunk/elementary/data/objects' /opt/e17/bin/edje_cc
> -id ../../data/objects -fd ../../data/objects \
> <------>../../data/objects/test.edc \
> <------>../../data/objects/test.edj /opt/e17/bin/edje_cc
> -id ../../data/objects -fd ../../data/objects \
> <------>../../data/objects/multip.edc \
> <------>../../data/objects/multip.edj /opt/e17/bin/edje_cc
> -id ../../data/objects -fd ../../data/objects \
> <------>../../data/objects/colorpreview.edc \
> <------>../../data/objects/colorpreview.edj /opt/e17/bin/edje_cc
> -id ../../data/objects -fd ../../data/objects \
> <------>../../data/objects/cursors.edc \
> <------>../../data/objects/cursors.edj /opt/e17/bin/edje_cc
> -id ../../data/objects -fd ../../data/objects \
> <------>../../data/objects/font_preview.edc \
> <------>../../data/objects/font_preview.edj ALSA player_plugin init
> fail Couldn't open any output device.
> /opt/e17/bin/edje_cc -id ../../data/objects -fd ../../data/objects \
> <------>../../data/objects/postit_ent.edc \
> <------>../../data/objects/postit_ent.edj
> ALSA player_plugin init fail
> Couldn't open any output device.
> ALSA player_plugin init fail
> Couldn't open any output device.
> ALSA player_plugin init fail
> Couldn't open any output device.
> make[3]: *** [postit_ent.edj] Segmentation fault
> make[3]: *** Deleting file `postit_ent.edj'
>
> Oops.
>
> Make -j is jumbling that up a bit. Still trying it out on other
> things in SVN.
And a similar segfault in editje -
make[3]: Entering directory
`/home/dvs1/e17_svn/SVN/trunk/editje/data/templates/default'
/opt/e17/bin/edje_cc
\ ../../../data/templates/default/default.edc \
../../../data/templates/default/default.edj
make[3]: *** [default.edj] Segmentation fault
make[3]: *** Deleting file `default.edj'
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