On Tue, 8 Nov 2011 00:13:18 +1000 David Seikel <onef...@gmail.com> said:

> On Mon, 7 Nov 2011 23:55:24 +1000 David Seikel <onef...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, 7 Nov 2011 22:48:04 +1000 David Seikel <onef...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > On Mon, 7 Nov 2011 21:36:43 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)
> > > <ras...@rasterman.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > On Mon, 7 Nov 2011 11:00:24 +0100 Raoul Hecky
> > > > <raoul.he...@gmail.com> said:
> > > > 
> > > > > Le lundi 7 novembre 2011 04:33:10, Carsten Haitzler a écrit :
> > > > > > attached. this was a sample edc that would be able to play
> > > > > > audio, not just single samples but whole sequences across
> > > > > > multiple tracks as well as control specific channels and
> > > > > > tracks. it didn't specify looping params yet or other
> > > > > > additional stuff.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Such a huge thing just to play sound in edje... Is it really
> > > > > necessary to have all this in edje or are you just nostalgic of
> > > > > the good old days of trackers??
> > > > 
> > > > DAMNED STRAIGHT I AM! :) i just discovered milkytracker! i'm
> > > > enjoying myself thoroughly! :)
> > > > 
> > > > seriously though... you CAN still just play samples.. then play
> > > > samples WITH volume envelopes and looping (sounds as this glues
> > > > sample+envelopes) and then play entire sequences (a series of
> > > > samples played with timing), which is the basics for most musical
> > > > scoring, then combine these into multiple track patterns and put
> > > > them together into whole songs if u want. it drops down to the
> > > > simple and up to the whole "compose a whole score" end of things.
> > > > 
> > > > if all you ever choose to do is play samples - then its largely
> > > > irrelevant. reality is that if you want to have complex sound
> > > > effects you need to start doing all of these little bits. :)
> > > > 
> > > > let me give an example. scrolling.
> > > > 
> > > > you want to play some "wind blowing" when you first start to drag
> > > > - this may consist of 2 or 3 channels of sound with various wind
> > > > samples overlayed at staggered intervals to give the impression of
> > > > something that isn't always looping and repeating (it's a neat
> > > > trick you also can do with overlayed images). you want this
> > > > "song" to fade in then keep looping a few patterns where you
> > > > really are using 5 or so 5 second samples to create several
> > > > minutes of wind sound. now when you actually MOVE your mouse (or
> > > > finger) you year some "tinkling" sounds that sound like the small
> > > > glass bells being shaken. these play and fade out becoming
> > > > quieter the slower your drag and varying pitch depending on how
> > > > high or low your position is on the scroll range. you would
> > > > implement these with another few tacks like the wind, applying
> > > > modifiers for pitch and volume of the play instructions. the bell
> > > > sample can be 2 or 3 samples like the wind to give the impression
> > > > of many distinct bells, just played at differing speeds for
> > > > pitches (you can normally go up 1 octave before it sounds just
> > > > odd and want to get a new sampling).
> > > 
> > > I'm excited by that.  B-)
> > > 
> > > However, with multisense turned on (Ubuntu 10.04, sndfile 1.0.21),
> > > when it gets to compiling elementary's edje files I get -
> > > 
> > > /opt/e17/bin/edje_cc  -id ../../data/themes -fd ../../data/themes \
> > > <------>../../data/themes/default.edc \
> > > <------>../../data/themes/default.edj
> > > /opt/e17/bin/edje_cc  -id ../../data/themes -fd ../../data/themes \
> > > <------>../../data/themes/default-desktop.edc \
> > > <------>../../data/themes/default-desktop.edj
> > > ALSA player_plugin init fail
> > > Couldn't open any output device.
> > > ALSA player_plugin init fail
> > > Couldn't open any output device.
> > > make[3]: Leaving directory
> > > `/home/dvs1/e17_svn/SVN/trunk/elementary/data/themes' Making all in
> > > images make[3]: Entering directory
> > > `/home/dvs1/e17_svn/SVN/trunk/elementary/data/images' make[3]:
> > > Nothing to be done for `all'. make[3]: Leaving directory
> > > `/home/dvs1/e17_svn/SVN/trunk/elementary/data/images' Making all in
> > > objects make[3]: Entering directory
> > > `/home/dvs1/e17_svn/SVN/trunk/elementary/data/objects' 
> > > /opt/e17/bin/edje_cc
> > > -id ../../data/objects -fd ../../data/objects \
> > > <------>../../data/objects/test.edc \
> > > <------>../../data/objects/test.edj /opt/e17/bin/edje_cc
> > > -id ../../data/objects -fd ../../data/objects \
> > > <------>../../data/objects/multip.edc \
> > > <------>../../data/objects/multip.edj /opt/e17/bin/edje_cc
> > > -id ../../data/objects -fd ../../data/objects \
> > > <------>../../data/objects/colorpreview.edc \
> > > <------>../../data/objects/colorpreview.edj /opt/e17/bin/edje_cc
> > > -id ../../data/objects -fd ../../data/objects \
> > > <------>../../data/objects/cursors.edc \
> > > <------>../../data/objects/cursors.edj /opt/e17/bin/edje_cc
> > > -id ../../data/objects -fd ../../data/objects \
> > > <------>../../data/objects/font_preview.edc \
> > > <------>../../data/objects/font_preview.edj ALSA player_plugin init
> > > fail Couldn't open any output device.
> > > /opt/e17/bin/edje_cc  -id ../../data/objects -fd ../../data/objects
> > > \ <------>../../data/objects/postit_ent.edc \
> > > <------>../../data/objects/postit_ent.edj
> > > ALSA player_plugin init fail
> > > Couldn't open any output device.
> > > ALSA player_plugin init fail
> > > Couldn't open any output device.
> > > ALSA player_plugin init fail
> > > Couldn't open any output device.
> > > make[3]: *** [postit_ent.edj] Segmentation fault
> > > make[3]: *** Deleting file `postit_ent.edj'
> > > 
> > > Oops.
> > > 
> > > Make -j is jumbling that up a bit.  Still trying it out on other
> > > things in SVN.
> > 
> > And a similar segfault in editje -
> > 
> > make[3]: Entering directory
> > `/home/dvs1/e17_svn/SVN/trunk/editje/data/templates/default' 
> > /opt/e17/bin/edje_cc
> > \ ../../../data/templates/default/default.edc \
> >         ../../../data/templates/default/default.edj
> > make[3]: *** [default.edj] Segmentation fault
> > make[3]: *** Deleting file `default.edj'
> > 
> 
> Hmm, second time through, elementary built fine.  Might not be edje_cc
> doing the segfaulting.

actually... where do u have remix installed vs edje? i think edje may be
installing the remix plugins in the wrong spot for remix.

-- 
------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" --------------
The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)    ras...@rasterman.com


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