On Tue, 8 Nov 2011 12:15:44 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <ras...@rasterman.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 8 Nov 2011 00:13:18 +1000 David Seikel <onef...@gmail.com> > said: > > > On Mon, 7 Nov 2011 23:55:24 +1000 David Seikel <onef...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > On Mon, 7 Nov 2011 22:48:04 +1000 David Seikel <onef...@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > On Mon, 7 Nov 2011 21:36:43 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The > > > > Rasterman) <ras...@rasterman.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 7 Nov 2011 11:00:24 +0100 Raoul Hecky > > > > > <raoul.he...@gmail.com> said: > > > > > > > > > > > Le lundi 7 novembre 2011 04:33:10, Carsten Haitzler a > > > > > > écrit : > > > > > > > attached. this was a sample edc that would be able to play > > > > > > > audio, not just single samples but whole sequences across > > > > > > > multiple tracks as well as control specific channels and > > > > > > > tracks. it didn't specify looping params yet or other > > > > > > > additional stuff. > > > > > > > > > > > > Such a huge thing just to play sound in edje... Is it really > > > > > > necessary to have all this in edje or are you just > > > > > > nostalgic of the good old days of trackers?? > > > > > > > > > > DAMNED STRAIGHT I AM! :) i just discovered milkytracker! i'm > > > > > enjoying myself thoroughly! :) > > > > > > > > > > seriously though... you CAN still just play samples.. then > > > > > play samples WITH volume envelopes and looping (sounds as > > > > > this glues sample+envelopes) and then play entire sequences > > > > > (a series of samples played with timing), which is the basics > > > > > for most musical scoring, then combine these into multiple > > > > > track patterns and put them together into whole songs if u > > > > > want. it drops down to the simple and up to the whole > > > > > "compose a whole score" end of things. > > > > > > > > > > if all you ever choose to do is play samples - then its > > > > > largely irrelevant. reality is that if you want to have > > > > > complex sound effects you need to start doing all of these > > > > > little bits. :) > > > > > > > > > > let me give an example. scrolling. > > > > > > > > > > you want to play some "wind blowing" when you first start to > > > > > drag > > > > > - this may consist of 2 or 3 channels of sound with various > > > > > wind samples overlayed at staggered intervals to give the > > > > > impression of something that isn't always looping and > > > > > repeating (it's a neat trick you also can do with overlayed > > > > > images). you want this "song" to fade in then keep looping a > > > > > few patterns where you really are using 5 or so 5 second > > > > > samples to create several minutes of wind sound. now when you > > > > > actually MOVE your mouse (or finger) you year some "tinkling" > > > > > sounds that sound like the small glass bells being shaken. > > > > > these play and fade out becoming quieter the slower your drag > > > > > and varying pitch depending on how high or low your position > > > > > is on the scroll range. you would implement these with > > > > > another few tacks like the wind, applying modifiers for pitch > > > > > and volume of the play instructions. the bell sample can be 2 > > > > > or 3 samples like the wind to give the impression of many > > > > > distinct bells, just played at differing speeds for pitches > > > > > (you can normally go up 1 octave before it sounds just odd > > > > > and want to get a new sampling). > > > > > > > > I'm excited by that. B-) > > > > > > > > However, with multisense turned on (Ubuntu 10.04, sndfile > > > > 1.0.21), when it gets to compiling elementary's edje files I > > > > get - > > > > > > > > /opt/e17/bin/edje_cc -id ../../data/themes > > > > -fd ../../data/themes \ <------>../../data/themes/default.edc \ > > > > <------>../../data/themes/default.edj > > > > /opt/e17/bin/edje_cc -id ../../data/themes > > > > -fd ../../data/themes \ > > > > <------>../../data/themes/default-desktop.edc \ > > > > <------>../../data/themes/default-desktop.edj ALSA > > > > player_plugin init fail Couldn't open any output device. > > > > ALSA player_plugin init fail > > > > Couldn't open any output device. > > > > make[3]: Leaving directory > > > > `/home/dvs1/e17_svn/SVN/trunk/elementary/data/themes' Making > > > > all in images make[3]: Entering directory > > > > `/home/dvs1/e17_svn/SVN/trunk/elementary/data/images' make[3]: > > > > Nothing to be done for `all'. make[3]: Leaving directory > > > > `/home/dvs1/e17_svn/SVN/trunk/elementary/data/images' Making > > > > all in objects make[3]: Entering directory > > > > `/home/dvs1/e17_svn/SVN/trunk/elementary/data/objects' > > > > /opt/e17/bin/edje_cc > > > > -id ../../data/objects -fd ../../data/objects \ > > > > <------>../../data/objects/test.edc \ > > > > <------>../../data/objects/test.edj /opt/e17/bin/edje_cc > > > > -id ../../data/objects -fd ../../data/objects \ > > > > <------>../../data/objects/multip.edc \ > > > > <------>../../data/objects/multip.edj /opt/e17/bin/edje_cc > > > > -id ../../data/objects -fd ../../data/objects \ > > > > <------>../../data/objects/colorpreview.edc \ > > > > <------>../../data/objects/colorpreview.edj /opt/e17/bin/edje_cc > > > > -id ../../data/objects -fd ../../data/objects \ > > > > <------>../../data/objects/cursors.edc \ > > > > <------>../../data/objects/cursors.edj /opt/e17/bin/edje_cc > > > > -id ../../data/objects -fd ../../data/objects \ > > > > <------>../../data/objects/font_preview.edc \ > > > > <------>../../data/objects/font_preview.edj ALSA player_plugin > > > > init fail Couldn't open any output device. > > > > /opt/e17/bin/edje_cc -id ../../data/objects > > > > -fd ../../data/objects \ > > > > <------>../../data/objects/postit_ent.edc \ > > > > <------>../../data/objects/postit_ent.edj ALSA player_plugin > > > > init fail Couldn't open any output device. > > > > ALSA player_plugin init fail > > > > Couldn't open any output device. > > > > ALSA player_plugin init fail > > > > Couldn't open any output device. > > > > make[3]: *** [postit_ent.edj] Segmentation fault > > > > make[3]: *** Deleting file `postit_ent.edj' > > > > > > > > Oops. > > > > > > > > Make -j is jumbling that up a bit. Still trying it out on other > > > > things in SVN. > > > > > > And a similar segfault in editje - > > > > > > make[3]: Entering directory > > > `/home/dvs1/e17_svn/SVN/trunk/editje/data/templates/default' > > > /opt/e17/bin/edje_cc > > > \ ../../../data/templates/default/default.edc \ > > > ../../../data/templates/default/default.edj > > > make[3]: *** [default.edj] Segmentation fault > > > make[3]: *** Deleting file `default.edj' > > > > > > > Hmm, second time through, elementary built fine. Might not be > > edje_cc doing the segfaulting. > > actually... where do u have remix installed vs edje? i think edje may > be installing the remix plugins in the wrong spot for remix. remix is installing in it's default of /usr/local, all of EFL and friends is installed in /opt/e17. -- A big old stinking pile of genius that no one wants coz there are too many silver coated monkeys in the world.
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