On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 1:31 PM, Lucas De Marchi <
[email protected]> wrote:

> On Apr 17, 2013 11:49 AM, "Rafael Antognolli" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 10:09 AM, Cedric BAIL <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > > Cedric Bail
> > > On Apr 17, 2013 2:22 AM, "Tom Hacohen" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> On 17/04/13 02:28, Jérôme Pinot wrote:
> > >> > On 04/17/13 10:11, David Seikel wrote:
> > >> >> On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 20:57:33 -0300 Lucas De Marchi
> > >> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >>> On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 8:34 PM, Carsten Haitzler
> > >> >>> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >> >>>> On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 16:24:08 -0300 Lucas De Marchi
> > >> >>>> <[email protected]> said:
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>>> On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 4:13 PM,  <
> [email protected]
> >
> > >> >>>>> wrote:
> > >> >>>>>> Tom Hacohen <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >> >>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>> On 16/04/13 16:01, Lucas De Marchi wrote:
> > >> >>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Tom Hacohen
> > >> >>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >> >>>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>>> On 16/04/13 15:26, Lucas De Marchi wrote:
> > >> >>>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 11:12 AM, Tom Hacohen
> > >> >>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >> >>>>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> Hey guys,
> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> How are you? I just noticed that 'edbus' installs headers
> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> under: prefix/include/edbus-1
> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> while using the
> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> pkgconfig name 'edbus2'
> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> the library name 'libedbus2'
> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> and an header called 'EDbus.h'.
> > >> >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> Luckily for us, it's not too late to fix it. Only
> question,
> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> what should
> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> we
> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> change it to? Everywhere with the 2 or everywhere without
> > >> >>>>>>>>>>> the 2?
> > >> >>>>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>>>> E_DBus installed edbus.pc and libedbus.so - that's why we
> > >> >>>>>>>>>> needed to put a 2 in the name.
> > >> >>>>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>>>> However the name is edbus and has no relations with the
> > >> >>>>>>>>>> previous library. It's not a new version, it's a complete
> > >> >>>>>>>>>> different one. So appending a "2" in headers and include
> > >> >>>>>>>>>> path is the wrong thing to do.
> > >> >>>>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>>>> If ebus was available I would vote for that. It seems we
> are
> > >> >>>>>>>>>> short  in options for names.
> > >> >>>>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>>>> Lucas De Marchi
> > >> >>>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>>> I understand putting the 2 was needed, but if we add it
> once,
> > >> >>>>>>>>> we should add
> > >> >>>>>>>>> it everywhere. It's annoyingly inconsistent.
> > >> >>>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>>> Why did you choose 2 then? Why not 4? Or A? You chose 2
> > >> >>>>>>>>> because it's the
> > >> >>>>>>>>> best explanation, as it is, although mostly unrelated,
> e_dbus
> > >> >>>>>>>>> v2. And if
> > >> >>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>> because it was not me is the best explanation.
> > >> >>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>>> that's good enough there, it's good enough everywhere.
> > >> >>>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>>> In conclusion, I see no harm in using edbus2 all around the
> > >> >>>>>>>>> place.
> > >> >>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>> it's not good enough there, even less everywhere.  The
> visible
> > >> >>>>>>>> part to the developer is the include path and the namespace.
> > >> >>>>>>>> And these should reflect the library name. If anything change
> > >> >>>>>>>> everything to something else, but don't put the 2 there.
> > >> >>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>> Let's wait to see what others think, as we disagree about the
> > >> >>>>>>> source of the problem, and that's: is this a major
> > >> >>>>>>> inconsistency that should be solved.
> > >> >>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>> Anyhow, regarding different names: I suggest edbus2.
> > >> >>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>> --
> > >> >>>>>>> Tom.
> > >> >>>>>>>
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> > >> >>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>> I agree with whatever demarchi says.
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> I disagree.
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> oh, wait...
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> Lucas De Marchi
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> :-P ... i have to say though - consistency is good. not just for
> > >> >>>> devs, but packagers and anyone looking at their filesystem. if
> > >> >>>> things are named in a consistent pattern it is easy to know what
> > >> >>>> belongs where without needing package databases or other
> forensics
> > >> >>>> tools.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> Sure it's good, no doubt. Just that renaming to edbus2 for the
> sake of
> > >> >>> consistency is even worse, not because of the rename, but because
> of
> > >> >>> the name chosen.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> ebus? anyone?
> > >> >>
> > >> >> The name of the ebus goes 'round and 'round.
> > >> >
> > >> > As we all like E, I suggest edeebus
> > >>
> > >> +1 from me.
> > >
> > > For the fun I will give a +1 to edeebus to !
> > >
> >
> > +1 from me too.
>
> What about eldbus?
>


+3 for eldbus

and you can count +1 from sachiel, since he is spanish or something like
that



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> Lucas De Marchi
>
> >
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> >
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