I am sending this to e-devel as this pertains more to the core people responsible for the project. Not to mention my interest is in doing EFL application development. Which given my experiences thus far, I must be crazy to continue participation. I am here for my own reasons. If not I would be gone long ago. I have more motivation to go than stay....
A few days back I was kicked from #edevelop by raster for saying something he did not want to here. Though I was not banned. That was minor, and only the 2nd time in some 15+ years of IRC I have been kicked from any IRC channel. Today after another used fowl language, personally insulted me, they kicked and banned me. That is flat out unacceptable. Nice community! Kicked once in 15+ years, and now in less than 2 week in E channels kicked and banned. Nice way to grow the community... Silencing others... 13:41 <@KainX> ajslye: You don't know what you're talking about, and this conversation is WAY off-topic. 13:41 < wltjr> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Speech_Movement 13:41 < wltjr> not really free speech movement is very much tied to foss :) 13:41 <@KainX> wltjr: You too. That's enough. Take it to /msg. 13:41 < wltjr> ever hear of BSD? :) 13:42 <@KainX> I used to work for Berkeley, you dumb fuck. I've worked with more BSD creators than you've ever even heard of. So just STFU. 13:43 < wltjr> then you would know the history and predates rms gnu etc 13:43 <@KainX> The next person I hear blaming "anti-fascists" for the rise of fascism in America is going to have a serious boot up his ass. 13:43 < wltjr> KainX: nice language and attitude, clearly you were involved in post years given the attitude 13:44 < wltjr> KainX: do you know what fascism is? those claming others are exhibit more of that behavior, the irony 13:44 < ajslye> wltjr, 3 of the 4 people that were arested taking down that one statue belonged to the Workers World Party 13:44 -!- wltjr was kicked from #e by KainX [ Out! Out! Evil demons of stupidity!] --- Log closed Wed Aug 30 13:44:31 2017 First off in IRC or email, anything public if you do not like what someone is saying. You do not have to listen/read. Furthermore you can easily set ingore on IRC, or filter out unwanted emails. To kick and ban someone unilaterally like a dictator because you do not like what they are saying literally is fascist behavior... Not to mention after using fowl language and personally insulting someone. Neither of which I did, and was far worse than anything I was saying or doing. Really interesting! At this point I will not be returning to IRC. Really nice wonderful friendly community. Accepting of all!!!! I have no tolerance for people claiming talk is off topic. When a channel will sit idle, dead for long periods of time. For something like #e, That channel should be very active always like most other channels are for other desktops etc. It shocks me how little activity #e has, and the project as a whole. But more I interact I am less shocked and can see factual reasons why people avoid it. Every since I first came to the E community. I have seen many things that justify the community being small. Flat out rude behavior that will drive people way, etc. I would have, and likely should have been gone long ago. If I am not right for the E community, then who is? I am opening bugs, helping users, doing EFL app development. What more would you want from new community members? I am not insulting anyone or using fowl language. At best I may say something others do not want to hear, dislike or is off topic. So for that its justified I be kicked, banned, insulted, etc? What I am saying others may not like, but that is no reason or excuse to kick/ban, etc. That is childish behavior and a power trip. Such actions only invite revenge. How do you ban someone from IRC? They can create accounts and join again. Its stupid, same for email etc. None of that will encourage others to join or do more. If anything will drive people away and keep thing small. Going back through my logs from when I first showed. Today was the 2nd time I ever heard from or interacted with KainX. First time being on 8./1/2017 with my logs going back to when I first joined in 3/31/17. I would never say such things to another in public. Much less someone I had little to no interaction with. Very unprofessional. -- William L. Thomson Jr.
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