On 31/08/17 09:34, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote:
> On Thu, 31 Aug 2017 09:03:01 +0930
> Simon Lees <sfl...@suse.de> wrote:
>>
>> In many IRC channels I am in for open source projects giving someone a
>> kickban for ignoring a channel moderator when they ask you to stop off
>> topic discussion is common and perfectly acceptable, If I was a
>> channel moderator and asked you to stop a certain behavior and you
>> didn't I'd also ban you for a period.
> 
> It was not a request... 
>  <@KainX> ajslye: You don't know what you're talking about, and this
>  conversation is WAY off-topic.
> @KainX> wltjr: You too.  That's enough.  Take it to /msg.
> 
> First off a channel moderator should not partake is a off topic
> discussion saying someone does not know what they are talking about.
> 

Sure they can, they might then decide that arguing the point either way
is just going to massively derail the channel and so its better just to
stop. I have done so in the past in other channels but i'd generally
suggest a general discussion channel where we could continue the discussion.

> Secondly in what world is take it to /msg a request? That is an
> order, demand etc.
> 

Yes exactly and you ignored the order of a channel moderator, you can
consider it a request because you don't have to move to /msg you could
just stop discussing it all together but either way thats not uncommon
language in this situation (atleast not in the channels I frequent)

> I was raised long ago to use the world PLEASE....
> "Like guys can you please take the off topic convo else where..."
> 
> Not being completely rude....
> 
>> I am sure equally after a period of time if the channel moderators
>> feel that you will listen to them and respect them they will remove
>> that ban.
> 
> I will not return. Something moderators should consider before kicking
> or banning anyone. Surely without warning etc.
> 
>> Yes Kainx's language wasn't the best but you were personally attacking
>> him as much as he was you (you just used different words) so don't
>> play innocent.
> 
> Point out where exactly I insulted anyone. I did not personally attack
> anyone. Provide the line where I did. I could have responded with
> insults but I did not.
> 

I never said you insulted anyone but the last 2 lines you said in the
channel could certainly be interpreted as an attack.

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