Hi there, About a week ago I tried e17 one more time. It's becoming more beautiful, but I still can't keep it as my sole WM. Why? I will answer:
1) There is not a login manager 2) There is not a file manager 3) There is not a terminal emulator 4) There is not a music player The three first ones are really needed. Xdm is so ugly... and if I'd install Konsole, Dolphin, Nautilus, KDM or GDM Login Managers, better to install the whole respective DM's, because those apps requires most of the respective DM's libs. The fourth is a personal feeling. I would really like some music player that's integrated into e17. Also, it's a pain to configure some small things, like shortcuts, integrate mouse-theme to GTK and QT apps, etc... I'm sure EFL is powerful enough to bring to life all those must-have apps. But someone has told me there are alternatives to Amarok and Konsole. I would like to know which ones, because I can't find anything nearly as powerful as those two && that doesn't require the majority of GTK libs (therefore, turning my desktop into a semi-gnome one; better to install Ubuntu, kill GDM and run e17 to draw the desktop instead). I'm sorry if I sound unhappy; that's not the case. It's just like a beautiful car that doesn't have seats: it is still beautiful, but highly unusable. I really think e17 is the most beautiful DM out there, but it misses some tools that force me to almost install another whole DM just to use some of its tools. Thank you and congratulations for the good and beautiful work. -- Linux User nÂș 451568 Linux Mint Gloria KDE Edition running on Athlon 64 X2 4200+ 2Gb DDR-400 2x Maxtor 40Gb in RAID 0 SATA Samsung 160Gb A8N SLI Premium gForce 6800 GS Ultra - Deceased... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev _______________________________________________ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users