2) We have a file manager... http://i.imgur.com/P2Z6I.jpg Its not as full featured as say, Nautilus, but its still very good.
1) We had a login manager, but no-one maintained it and it was old and full of spiders and dust. I hear a re-write may be possible. 4) Agreed! 3) Agreed! 3 & 4) Apps dont write themselves unfortunately. And I dare say, those that are contributing code are more focused on the core components than stuff that can come once the main important bits are done. In terms of music players and consoles, this probably wont help, but I use xterm (light, fast, dont need all the other junk (tabs are silly for terminals as you generally look at 2 or more at the same time anyway)), and Grooveshark... which is a web based music player. Its got a huge library of music and quite easy to use. For offline music, I just use rhythmbox. That being said, you dont see a 'fluxbox' terminal and file manager. Also, all the devs (I hope) use E17 as their default desktop setup. And as mad as it sounds, we're all human beings with our own personal use for computers as well! :O We all seem to manage quite fine. To take your car analogy, its not missing seats, its missing leather interior, seat warmers, cigarette lighter and side mirror defoggers. IMHO, its all very usable, but you dont get some of the luxuries of the other big bloaty DEs. Thanks for the feedback :) We do need it! Toma. On 16 April 2010 07:23, Terminus Est <richterlevan...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi there, > > About a week ago I tried e17 one more time. It's becoming more beautiful, > but I still can't keep it as my sole WM. Why? I will answer: > > 1) There is not a login manager > > 2) There is not a file manager > > 3) There is not a terminal emulator > > 4) There is not a music player > > > The three first ones are really needed. Xdm is so ugly... and if I'd install > Konsole, Dolphin, Nautilus, KDM or GDM Login Managers, better to install the > whole respective DM's, because those apps requires most of the respective > DM's libs. > > The fourth is a personal feeling. I would really like some music player > that's integrated into e17. > > Also, it's a pain to configure some small things, like shortcuts, integrate > mouse-theme to GTK and QT apps, etc... > > I'm sure EFL is powerful enough to bring to life all those must-have apps. > But someone has told me there are alternatives to Amarok and Konsole. I > would like to know which ones, because I can't find anything nearly as > powerful as those two && that doesn't require the majority of GTK libs > (therefore, turning my desktop into a semi-gnome one; better to install > Ubuntu, kill GDM and run e17 to draw the desktop instead). > > I'm sorry if I sound unhappy; that's not the case. It's just like a > beautiful car that doesn't have seats: it is still beautiful, but highly > unusable. I really think e17 is the most beautiful DM out there, but it > misses some tools that force me to almost install another whole DM just to > use some of its tools. > > Thank you and congratulations for the good and beautiful work. > > > -- > Linux User nº 451568 > > Linux Mint Gloria KDE Edition running on Athlon 64 X2 4200+ 2Gb DDR-400 2x > Maxtor 40Gb in RAID 0 SATA Samsung 160Gb A8N SLI Premium gForce 6800 GS > Ultra - Deceased... > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval > Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs > proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. > See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev > _______________________________________________ > enlightenment-users mailing list > enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev _______________________________________________ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
