When i choose e17 as my WM, that was due to three reasons: 1. It's fast and clean. 2. It's beauty. 3. It's mainly, Just a WM.
I have used Gnome, KDE and even XFCE for some time. But today i think i Just don't need all that deasktop integration, it easies some things, but by a great cost, mainly of memory, and i really hope that E17 could be always a simples and fast WM and let all the other stuff (modules and apps) optionals. Otherwise, my second choice would be, surely, FVWM. About the most used Apps: > 1) There is not a login manager For now i still use gdm. Even if it loads a lot of gnome, i think it's the fastes full featured login manager. Maybe i'll try slin, as suggested by Mysth-R, soon. > 2) There is not a file manager Yes, there is, as told before. But i'm more confortable with Nautilus. I don't care about the cost of loading gnome libs, Just need enough memory for that, I use E on my notebook, not my resource-limitated smartphone. > 3) There is not a terminal emulator Eterm can be mentioned as E's terminal emulator, and it is a great terminal emulator. It's only problem is the lack of utf-8 support, reason for qhat i changed to urxvt, that's very lite, clean, and don't have tabs (i don't like tabs on terminals). > 4) There is not a music player Some time ago there was a beautifull efl music player simple as xmms, but i can't remember it's name. To manage a music library and playlists we can use mpd and the E front-ends. But i think there Will never be another media player as good as Amarok (neither iTunes i think can bit it). Usually i choose na app for each needs, and i don't care about the libs it loads. I just prefer to stay away of kde libs (except for Amarok) and Mono. My current desktop includes E17, Nautilus, uRXVT, mpd+Sonata, Amarok, Pidgin and Firefox, and i let all management tasks (network and configurations) be done on terminal. Sorry by my poor english. :( __ Paulo Diovani Gonçalves pa...@diovani.com http://diovani.com -----Mensagem original----- De: Daniel Stonier [mailto:d.ston...@gmail.com] Enviada em: sexta-feira, 16 de abril de 2010 06:21 Para: enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net Assunto: Re: [e-users] Some constructive criticism On 16 April 2010 17:17, Christian Ullmann <x...@gmx.net> wrote: > Hi! > > What about eterm right now? I saw the sources on SVN but i havnt > compiled them. As you answered it seems eterm is a bit incomplete... > > And wasnt where a e-lib music player out there some time ago (the > interface was quite similar to xmms, but just not so complex)? what happend? > > > > > And by the way... what I REALLY NEED in E is way to configure my shelf > by x & y coordinates. Iam using 2 monitors (17" & 23") with xinerama, > but they have different resolutions. As you can imagin the shelf > configuration is not perfect for me using "set to middle left, bottom > middle, bottom right, ...) > And it would be really nice if i can configure some seperations between > the shelf-apps, so the shelf will fit perfeclty into my right monitor. > > But i was thinking E is just a good useable beta and thought you would > have done that with the final release. ;) > > > greetings > Chris > > ps. Arrr how incomplete the E17-beta is! You havnt thought about some > special needs & seldon used configurations used by some freaks! ;-P > On the flip side, I keep getting the same beta-like impression of gnome's awkward handling of multi-screens and multi-workspaces. E has always handled it much more nicely in my opinion. The reality is that any desktop in linux is going to be more or less complete here or there. I long ago stopped worrying about everything being gnome or everything being efl or everything being kde. People will program in whatever they're most comfortable with...and the fact that I can use whatever they want regardless of what desktop I'm in...I think thats great. I also think that the freedom to create in more than just the *one* way (aka ms/apple) is great and am perfectly ok with that situation. So, on my high end pc's, I typically run e17 because its light, responsive and its quiet! Nothing gets in your way. And because its an aussie who's making the magic! For my particular apps I'll use whatever I like the most, whether that's gnome-terminal or amarok, it doesn't really phase me. On my lower end pc's, I'm equally happy making do with a lower set of environmental constraints. End result, I'm happy with my computer(s). 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