sorry for the top post....

iirc...old man is almost always right. when he's wrong, is still right 
in ways ;)

dh

On 02/28/2012 10:32 PM, Wido wrote:
> Ok, so I got really really mad and nuked all the E prefix  (which was
> /opt). I also discovered that there were some ancient old EFL libs laying
> around un /usr/local. In fact, so ancient that there were still ewl and etk
> stuff....I nuke all those dirs as well.
>
> Then, I kept looking for that egl_dri2.so file, and i happens to be
> installed with libegl1-mesa package. But I'm using NV drivers (I nuke and
> reinstall them as well, before I did with EFL).
>
> So, after deleting everything, reinstalling video drivers and recompiling
> all the EFL....I just like before and expedite keeps giving the same error
>
> El 28 de febrero de 2012 21:53, Wido<wido...@gmail.com>  escribió:
>
>> I'm getting:
>>
>> expedite: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/egl/egl_dri2.so:
>> undefined symbol: _glapi_get_proc_address
>>
>> but that lib is there:
>>
>> $ ls -l /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/egl/egl_dri2.so
>> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 28172 ago  7  2011
>> /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/egl/egl_dri2.so
>>
>> so I think I messed my libs somehow xD
>>
>> El 28 de febrero de 2012 20:56, Carsten 
>> Haitzler<ras...@rasterman.com>escribió:
>>
>> On Tue, 28 Feb 2012 11:56:39 -0600 Chris Story<kc5...@gmail.com>  said:
>>>
>>> do you perhaps have multiple efl installs in different prefixes eg /usr
>>> and /usr/local or /usr/local and /opt/e or something? as such to get some
>>> cmdline fun try:
>>>
>>> export EVAS_GL_INFO=1
>>> expedite -e gl
>>>
>>> does that come up? if not - what does it complain about. if ti comes
>>> up... what
>>> does it report?
>>>
>>>> Raster --
>>>>
>>>>    I am also getting the message regarding software mode OpenGL and am
>>> using
>>>> the Nvidia proprietary drivers in Ubuntu 11.10. I am able to compile E
>>>> without issue from the svn and the gl_x11 module is compiled in evas. My
>>>> logs are below. SVN version is 68512.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> c0re
>>>>
>>>> Evas Logs:
>>>>
>>>>      Engines:
>>>>        Software Memory Buffer.....: yes
>>>>        Software X11...............: yes (Xlib: yes) (XCB: no)
>>>>        OpenGL X11.................: yes (Xlib: yes) (XCB: no) (GLES: no)
>>>> (SGX: no) (s3c6410: no)
>>>>
>>>> Ecore Logs:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        Ecore_X (Xlib backend).......: yes
>>>>          Xcursor....................: yes
>>>>          Xkb........................: yes
>>>>          Xprint.....................: no
>>>>          Xinerama...................: yes
>>>>          Xrandr.....................: yes
>>>>          Xgesture...................: no
>>>>          Xscreensaver...............: no
>>>>          Xrender....................: yes
>>>>          Xcomposite.................: yes
>>>>          Xfixes.....................: yes
>>>>          Xdamage....................: yes
>>>>          Xdpms......................: yes
>>>>          Xtest......................: no
>>>>          XIM........................: yes
>>>>          Xi2........................: yes
>>>>        Ecore_Win32..................: no
>>>>        Ecore_Cocoa..................: no
>>>>        Ecore_SDL....................: no
>>>>        Ecore_FB.....................: yes
>>>>          Touchscreen................: no
>>>>        Ecore_DirectFB...............: no
>>>>        Ecore_WinCE..................: no
>>>>        Ecore_PSL1GHT................: no
>>>>        Ecore_Wayland................: no
>>>>
>>>>       Ecore Evas:
>>>>
>>>>        Ecore_Evas...................: yes
>>>>          Software Memory Buffer.....: yes
>>>>          Software X11...............: yes (Xlib=yes) (XCB=no)
>>>>          OpenGL X11.................: yes (Xlib=yes) (XCB=no)
>>>>          Software GDI...............: no
>>>>          Software DirectDraw........: no
>>>>          Direct3D...................: no
>>>>          OpenGL Glew................: no
>>>>          Software SDL...............: no
>>>>          OpenGL SDL.................: no
>>>>          OpenGL Cocoa...............: no
>>>>          DirectFB...................: no
>>>>          PSL1GHT....................: no
>>>>          Software Framebuffer.......: yes
>>>>          Software 8bit grayscale XCB: no
>>>>          Software 16bit X11.........: no
>>>>          Software 16bit DirectDraw..: no
>>>>          Software 16bit WinCE.......: no
>>>>          Sing.Proc. Windowing System: yes
>>>>              Wayland Shm................: no
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   glxinfo|grep OpenGL
>>>>
>>>>       OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
>>>>       OpenGL renderer string: GeForce 7300 GS/PCI/SSE2
>>>>       OpenGL version string: 2.1.2 NVIDIA 173.14.30
>>>>       OpenGL shading language version string: 1.20 NVIDIA via Cg compiler
>>>>       OpenGL extensions:
>>>>
>>>> Xorg.log:
>>>>
>>>>      [ 42195.119] (**) ModulePath set to
>>>> "/usr/lib/nvidia-173-updates/xorg,/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
>>>>      [ 42195.119] (**) Extension "Composite" is enabled
>>>>      [ 42195.119] (WW) Hotplugging is on, devices using drivers 'kbd',
>>>> 'mouse' or 'vmmouse' will be disabled.
>>>>      [ 42195.119] (WW) Disabling Mouse0
>>>>      [ 42195.119] (WW) Disabling Keyboard0
>>>>      [ 42195.119] (II) Loader magic: 0x7e0220
>>>>      [ 42195.119] (II) Module ABI versions:
>>>>      [ 42195.119]    X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4
>>>>      [ 42195.119]    X.Org Video Driver: 10.0
>>>>      [ 42195.119]    X.Org XInput driver : 12.3
>>>>      [ 42195.119]    X.Org Server Extension : 5.0
>>>>      [ 42195.121] (--) PCI:*(0:1:0:0) 10de:01df:0000:0000 rev 161, Mem @
>>>> 0xfa000000/16777216, 0xe0000000/268435456, 0xfb000000/16777216, BIOS @
>>>> 0x????????/131072
>>>>      [ 42195.121] (--) PCI: (0:3:0:0) 14f1:8852:0070:7911 rev 3, Mem @
>>>> 0xfda00000/2097152
>>>>      [ 42195.121] (II) Open ACPI successful (/var/run/acpid.socket)
>>>>      [ 42195.121] (II) "extmod" will be loaded. This was enabled by
>>> default
>>>> and also specified in the config file.
>>>>      [ 42195.121] (II) "dbe" will be loaded. This was enabled by default
>>> and
>>>> also specified in the config file.
>>>>      [ 42195.121] (II) "glx" will be loaded. This was enabled by default
>>> and
>>>> also specified in the config file.
>>>>      [ 42195.121] (II) "record" will be loaded. This was enabled by
>>> default
>>>> and also specified in the config file.
>>>>      [ 42195.125] (II) "dri" will be loaded by default.
>>>>      [ 42195.125] (II) "dri2" will be loaded. This was enabled by default
>>>> and also specified in the config file.
>>>>      [ 42195.125] (II) LoadModule: "dri2"
>>>>      [ 42195.125] (II) Loading
>>> /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdri2.so
>>>>      [ 42195.126] (II) Module dri2: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
>>>>      [ 42195.126]    compiled for 1.10.4, module version = 1.2.0
>>>>      [ 42195.126]    ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 5.0
>>>>      [ 42195.126] (II) Loading extension DRI2
>>>>      [ 42195.126] (II) LoadModule: "glx"
>>>>      [ 42195.126] (II) Loading /usr/lib/nvidia-173-updates/xorg/libglx.so
>>>>      [ 42195.134] (II) Module glx: vendor="NVIDIA Corporation"
>>>>      [ 42195.134]    compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.0
>>>>      [ 42195.134]    Module class: X.Org Server Extension
>>>>      [ 42195.134] (II) NVIDIA GLX Module  173.14.30  Sat Apr 16 22:45:09
>>> PDT
>>>> 2011
>>>>      [ 42195.134] (II) Loading extension GLX
>>>>      [ 42195.134] (II) LoadModule: "record"
>>>>      [ 42195.134] (II) Loading
>>> /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/librecord.so
>>>>      [ 42195.135] (II) Module record: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
>>>>      [ 42195.135]    compiled for 1.10.4, module version = 1.13.0
>>>>      [ 42195.135]    Module class: X.Org Server Extension
>>>>      [ 42195.135]    ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 5.0
>>>>      [ 42195.135] (II) Loading extension RECORD
>>>>      [ 42195.135] (II) LoadModule: "extmod"
>>>>      [ 42195.135] (II) Loading
>>> /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libextmod.so
>>>>      [ 42195.135] (II) Module extmod: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
>>>>      [ 42195.135]    compiled for 1.10.4, module version = 1.0.0
>>>>      [ 42195.135]    Module class: X.Org Server Extension
>>>>      [ 42195.135]    ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 5.0
>>>>      [ 42195.135] (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
>>>>      [ 42195.135] (II) Loading extension XFree86-VidModeExtension
>>>>      [ 42195.135] (II) Loading extension XFree86-DGA
>>>>      [ 42195.135] (II) Loading extension DPMS
>>>>      [ 42195.135] (II) Loading extension XVideo
>>>>      [ 42195.135] (II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation
>>>>      [ 42195.135] (II) Loading extension X-Resource
>>>>      [ 42195.135] (II) LoadModule: "dbe"
>>>>      [ 42195.135] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdbe.so
>>>>      [ 42195.135] (II) Module dbe: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
>>>>      [ 42195.135]    compiled for 1.10.4, module version = 1.0.0
>>>>      [ 42195.135]    Module class: X.Org Server Extension
>>>>      [ 42195.135]    ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 5.0
>>>>      [ 42195.135] (II) Loading extension DOUBLE-BUFFER
>>>>      [ 42195.135] (II) LoadModule: "dri"
>>>>      [ 42195.136] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdri.so
>>>>      [ 42195.136] (II) Module dri: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
>>>>      [ 42195.136]    compiled for 1.10.4, module version = 1.0.0
>>>>      [ 42195.136]    ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 5.0
>>>>      [ 42195.136] (II) Loading extension XFree86-DRI
>>>>      [ 42195.136] (II) LoadModule: "nvidia"
>>>>      [ 42195.136] (II) Loading
>>> /usr/lib/nvidia-173-updates/xorg/nvidia_drv.so
>>>>      [ 42195.136] (II) Module nvidia: vendor="NVIDIA Corporation"
>>>>      [ 42195.136]    compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.0
>>>>      [ 42195.136]    Module class: X.Org Video Driver
>>>>      [ 42195.136] (II) NVIDIA dlloader X Driver  173.14.30  Sat Apr 16
>>>> 22:18:29 PDT 2011
>>>>      [ 42195.136] (II) NVIDIA Unified Driver for all Supported NVIDIA
>>> GPUs
>>>>      [ 42195.136] (--) using VT number 8
>>>>      [ 42195.145] (II) Loading sub module "fb"
>>>>      [ 42195.145] (II) LoadModule: "fb"
>>>>      [ 42195.145] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libfb.so
>>>>      [ 42195.145] (II) Module fb: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
>>>>      [ 42195.145]    compiled for 1.10.4, module version = 1.0.0
>>>>      [ 42195.145]    ABI class: X.Org ANSI C Emulation, version 0.4
>>>>      [ 42195.145] (II) Loading sub module "wfb"
>>>>      [ 42195.145] (II) LoadModule: "wfb"
>>>>      [ 42195.145] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libwfb.so
>>>>      [ 42195.145] (II) Module wfb: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
>>>>      [ 42195.145]    compiled for 1.10.4, module version = 1.0.0
>>>>      [ 42195.145]    ABI class: X.Org ANSI C Emulation, version 0.4
>>>>      [ 42195.145] (II) Loading sub module "ramdac"
>>>>      [ 42195.145] (II) LoadModule: "ramdac"
>>>>      [ 42195.145] (II) Module "ramdac" already built-in
>>>>      [ 42195.145] (II) Loading
>>> /usr/lib/nvidia-173-updates/xorg/nvidia_drv.so
>>>>      [ 42195.145] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libwfb.so
>>>>      [ 42195.145] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libfb.so
>>>>      [ 42195.146] (==) NVIDIA(0): Depth 24, (==) framebuffer bpp 32
>>>>      [ 42195.146] (==) NVIDIA(0): RGB weight 888
>>>>      [ 42195.146] (==) NVIDIA(0): Default visual is TrueColor
>>>>      [ 42195.146] (==) NVIDIA(0): Using gamma correction (1.0, 1.0, 1.0)
>>>>      [ 42195.146] (**) NVIDIA(0): Enabling RENDER acceleration
>>>>      [ 42195.146] (II) NVIDIA(0): Support for GLX with the Damage and
>>>> Composite X extensions is
>>>>      [ 42195.146] (II) NVIDIA(0):     enabled.
>>>>      [ 42195.792] (II) NVIDIA(0): NVIDIA GPU GeForce 7300 GS (G72) at
>>>> PCI:1:0:0 (GPU-0)
>>>>      [ 42195.792] (--) NVIDIA(0): Memory: 524288 kBytes
>>>>      [ 42195.792] (--) NVIDIA(0): VideoBIOS: 05.72.22.43.01
>>>>      [ 42195.792] (II) NVIDIA(0): Detected PCI Express Link width: 16X
>>>>      [ 42195.792] (--) NVIDIA(0): Interlaced video modes are supported on
>>>> this GPU
>>>>      [ 42195.792] (--) NVIDIA(0): Connected display device(s) on GeForce
>>>> 7300 GS at PCI:1:0:0:
>>>>      [ 42195.792] (--) NVIDIA(0):     ViewSonic VA902b (CRT-0)
>>>>      [ 42195.792] (--) NVIDIA(0): ViewSonic VA902b (CRT-0): 400.0 MHz
>>>> maximum pixel clock
>>>>      [ 42195.793] (II) NVIDIA(0): Assigned Display Device: CRT-0
>>>>      [ 42195.793] (==) NVIDIA(0):
>>>>      [ 42195.793] (==) NVIDIA(0): No modes were requested; the default
>>> mode
>>>> "nvidia-auto-select"
>>>>      [ 42195.793] (==) NVIDIA(0):     will be used as the requested mode.
>>>>      [ 42195.793] (==) NVIDIA(0):
>>>>      [ 42195.793] (II) NVIDIA(0): Validated modes:
>>>>      [ 42195.793] (II) NVIDIA(0):     "nvidia-auto-select"
>>>>      [ 42195.793] (II) NVIDIA(0): Virtual screen size determined to be
>>> 1280
>>>> x 1024
>>>>      [ 42195.794] (--) NVIDIA(0): DPI set to (85, 86); computed from
>>>> "UseEdidDpi" X config
>>>>      [ 42195.794] (--) NVIDIA(0):     option
>>>>      [ 42195.795] (==) NVIDIA(0): Enabling 32-bit ARGB GLX visuals.
>>>>      [ 42195.795] (--) Depth 24 pixmap format is 32 bpp
>>>>      [ 42195.797] (II) NVIDIA(0): Initialized GPU GART.
>>>>      [ 42195.800] (II) NVIDIA(0): Setting mode "nvidia-auto-select"
>>>>      [ 42195.884] (II) Loading extension NV-GLX
>>>>      [ 42195.901] (II) NVIDIA(0): NVIDIA 3D Acceleration Architecture
>>>> Initialized
>>>>      [ 42195.918] (II) NVIDIA(0): Using the NVIDIA 2D acceleration
>>>> architecture
>>>>      [ 42195.918] (==) NVIDIA(0): Backing store disabled
>>>>      [ 42195.918] (==) NVIDIA(0): Silken mouse enabled
>>>>      [ 42195.918] (==) NVIDIA(0): DPMS enabled
>>>>      [ 42195.918] (II) Loading extension NV-CONTROL
>>>>      [ 42195.918] (==) RandR enabled
>>>>      [ 42195.918] (==) RandR enabled
>>>>      [ 42195.918] (II) Initializing built-in extension Generic Event
>>>> Extension
>>>>      [ 42195.918] (II) Initializing built-in extension SHAPE
>>>>      [ 42195.918] (II) Initializing built-in extension MIT-SHM
>>>>      [ 42195.918] (II) Initializing built-in extension XInputExtension
>>>>      [ 42195.918] (II) Initializing built-in extension XTEST
>>>>      [ 42195.918] (II) Initializing built-in extension BIG-REQUESTS
>>>>      [ 42195.918] (II) Initializing built-in extension SYNC
>>>>      [ 42195.918] (II) Initializing built-in extension XKEYBOARD
>>>>      [ 42195.918] (II) Initializing built-in extension XC-MISC
>>>>      [ 42195.918] (II) Initializing built-in extension SECURITY
>>>>      [ 42195.918] (II) Initializing built-in extension XINERAMA
>>>>      [ 42195.918] (II) Initializing built-in extension XFIXES
>>>>      [ 42195.918] (II) Initializing built-in extension RENDER
>>>>      [ 42195.918] (II) Initializing built-in extension RANDR
>>>>      [ 42195.918] (II) Initializing built-in extension COMPOSITE
>>>>      [ 42195.918] (II) Initializing built-in extension DAMAGE
>>>>      [ 42195.918] (II) Initializing built-in extension GESTURE
>>>>      [ 42195.919] (II) Initializing extension GLX
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 8:52 AM, Carsten Haitzler<ras...@rasterman.com
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 28 Feb 2012 10:49:42 -0300 Wido<wido...@gmail.com>  said:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Honestly, I can't remember =S. And can't finde the logs either =S =S
>>>>>>
>>>>>> However, I always compile evas with this flags: "
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --enable-word-cache --enable-pipe-render --enable-pthreads
>>>>>> --enable-metric-cache --enable-gles-variety-sgx", so I suppose it
>>> has.
>>>>> For
>>>>>> ecore-evas, I'm not so sure, so just to be really really sure, I
>>> will
>>>>>> recompile them and let you know how it goes
>>>>>
>>>>> well configure spews out all the settings evas/ecore compile with at
>>>>> configure
>>>>> time.
>>>>>
>>>>>> BTW, Is there a way to know if it has?
>>>>>
>>>>> there is a gl_x11 module for evas - another file in
>>>>> PREFIX/lib/evas/modules/engines/
>>>>>
>>>>> and it has to be named the right architecture like other moduels and
>>> be
>>>>> versioned correctly (all moduels get versioned along with the evas
>>> version
>>>>> so
>>>>> it has to match).
>>>>>
>>>>>> El 28 de febrero de 2012 02:12, Carsten Haitzler
>>>>>> <ras...@rasterman.com>escribió:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, 28 Feb 2012 00:11:34 -0300 Wido<wido...@gmail.com>  said:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> did evas and ecore-evas build with evas gl engine support?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have a GeForce 9800GT, using latest NVidia drivers (OpenGL
>>> version
>>>>>>>> string: 3.3.0 NVIDIA 295.20), recent EFL (Revision: 68223),
>>> recent SO
>>>>>>> libs
>>>>>>>> (debian wheezy, almost up-to-date), and still get that annoying
>>>>> message
>>>>>>>> "Your screen does not support OpenGL.  Falling back to software
>>>>> engine"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> can't figure out what I'm doing wrong =(
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> More specs:
>>>>>>>> server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
>>>>>>>> client glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
>>>>>>>> GLX version: 1.4
>>>>>>>> OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
>>>>>>>> OpenGL renderer string: GeForce 9800 GT/PCIe/SSE2/3DNOW!
>>>>>>>> OpenGL version string: 3.3.0 NVIDIA 295.20
>>>>>>>> OpenGL shading language version string: 3.30 NVIDIA via Cg
>>> compiler
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 'magic' Raster's options are enabled:
>>>>>>>>         Option          "TripleBuffer"                  "True"
>>>>>>>>         Option          "Coolbits"                      "7"
>>>>>>>>         Option          "UseEvents"                     "True"
>>>>>>>>         Option          "OnDemandVBlankInterrupts"      "True"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Two monitors, one at 2048x1152, the other 1680x1050. Virtual
>>> screen
>>>>> size
>>>>>>>> determined to be 3728 x 1152
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Overall performance looks ok. But I do notice a downgrade in
>>>>> performance
>>>>>>>> when comp is enabled and youtube strams a video at 720P. Also
>>> notice
>>>>>>>> downgrade in performance when some windows are opened (chrome +
>>>>> couple of
>>>>>>>> konsoles) and I switch virtual desktop
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> El 26 de febrero de 2012 03:36, Carsten Haitzler
>>>>>>>> <ras...@rasterman.com>escribió:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 09:39:04 +1000 David Seikel<
>>> onef...@gmail.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> said:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 25 Feb 2012 18:33:09 +0000 Mick<
>>>>> michaelkintz...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday 24 Feb 2012 10:28:22 you wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 09:05:25 +0000 Mick<
>>>>>>> michaelkintz...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> said:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday 24 Feb 2012 01:05:15 Carsten Haitzler wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 00:57:58 +0000 Mick
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <michaelkintz...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> said:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday 24 Feb 2012 00:21:00 Carsten Haitzler
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you just need xproto + xlibs.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just remember that compositing will be broken
>>> for
>>>>> you due
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to your server being old anyway, but e/efl will
>>>>> compile
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> run but compositing may fail (and we will be
>>> moving
>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> compositing only in future).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oops!  Won't we have an option to switch it off
>>> if we
>>>>> want
>>>>>>> to?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in future - no. for e17 release it'll stay a
>>> module, but
>>>>>>> after
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that it'll be compositing only. get used to it - i
>>>>> suggest u
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use it and report bugs/issues. :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, I can't say it is bug(s) but it is a matter of
>>>>> overall
>>>>>>>>>>>>> responsiveness and resources used, especially on older
>>>>> systems.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Composite uses (slightly) more CPU and memory on my
>>> amd64
>>>>> box
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> more so on an old x86 with a PIII on it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> the lowest-end machine i've use it on is a
>>> pentium-m@600mhz-
>>>>>>>>>>>> it works very well there. sure - not silky smooth but
>>> very
>>>>> usable...
>>>>>>>>>>>> considering its copying mountains of data around and
>>>>> rendering
>>>>>>>>>>>> everything with the cpu (clients included) it's pretty
>>>>> amazing.
>>>>>>> :)
>>>>>>>>>>>> seriously... software compositing is working (decently)
>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>> PHONES... yes - its a price to pay - software
>>> compositing
>>>>> adds an
>>>>>>>>>>>> extra copy from x to local data first before drawing
>>> and then
>>>>>>>>>>>> writing it back to x - so it adds extra overhead.
>>> theres no
>>>>> zero
>>>>>>>>>>>> copy path like gl + texture-from-pixmap.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Plus when say I watch something in mplayer and I move
>>>>> focus to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> another window, then the mplayer window becomes
>>>>> transparent and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the picture fades. Since the cursor does not
>>> automatically
>>>>>>> follow
>>>>>>>>>>>>> my eyes I just switch composite off.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> you can select what style u want with compositing - its
>>>>> there in
>>>>>>>>>>>> the comp gui to select. you can have the fading
>>> disabled -
>>>>>>> wobbles
>>>>>>>>>>>> too etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hmmm ... my PIII comes up with this compositor warning:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Your screen does not support OpenGL.  Falling back to
>>> software
>>>>>>>>>>> engine"
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It seems it doesn't like the Radeon Mobility M6 LY that
>>> this
>>>>> old
>>>>>>>>>>> laptop is running.  I don't recall having this problem
>>> before.
>>>>>   I
>>>>>>>>>>> should try a later snapshot to see if it persists.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I can see in top enlightenment runs between 3.4 - 5% of
>>> the CPU
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>> bursts up to 35.9 - 54% when I move between windows (a
>>> couple
>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>> aterms and a xterm).
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Without composite enlightenment shows between 0.5 - 2.5%
>>> of
>>>>> the CPU
>>>>>>>>>>> with bursts up to 7.9% when I move between windows.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So, yes it is usable, but if I am doing something heavy
>>> on this
>>>>>>>>>>> little box like compiling, compressing files, etc, then it
>>>>> slows
>>>>>>> down
>>>>>>>>>>> noticeably and this is why I would rather give up
>>> compositing
>>>>>>> effects
>>>>>>>>>>> for functionality.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Are there some settings in the composite configuration,
>>> which
>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>> minimise the load?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm seeing 30 to 50% of one core being used with the
>>> composite
>>>>> module
>>>>>>>>>> turned on, even worse in software mode, and that was with it
>>>>> sitting
>>>>>>>>>> idle.  It did indeed interfere with my 3D app, it
>>> stuttered.  I
>>>>>>> jiggled
>>>>>>>>>> the settings somewhat, but did not get much better than
>>> that.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> CPU: AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 840 Processor
>>>>>>>>>> Memory: 3961 MB
>>>>>>>>>> Graphics Card: GeForce GT 220/PCI/SSE2
>>>>>>>>>> OpenGL Version: 3.2.0 NVIDIA 195.36.24
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Unloaded the module again.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> wait a sec.. your nvidia drivers are ANCIENT... like from when
>>>>>>> dinosaurs
>>>>>>>>> roamed the earth! get an update man! i can have compositing
>>> on this
>>>>>>> GTS450
>>>>>>>>> (nvidia) without hassles - yes its more powerful than yours,
>>> but
>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>> really
>>>>>>>>> only matters to complex shaders and really nasty geometry. as
>>> such
>>>>> i
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>> run
>>>>>>>>> and recorded a whole bevy of tests with the unigine heaven
>>>>> benchmark
>>>>>>>>> (modern
>>>>>>>>> game engine that supports linux along with other platforms).
>>> i can
>>>>>>> enable
>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>> disable tessellation and tessellation HURTS per - but thats
>>>>> irrelevant
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> compositing other than showing that a very complex gl using
>>> game
>>>>> can
>>>>>>> work
>>>>>>>>> without issues with compositing on. as such performance isnt
>>> great
>>>>>>> until i
>>>>>>>>> tune
>>>>>>>>> down quality to absolute lowest levels. also remember i have 2
>>>>> screens
>>>>>>>>> (3520x1120). results:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> | test     | comp on | comp off |
>>>>>>>>> | tess on  | 43.6    | 45.5     |
>>>>>>>>> | tess off |  9.9    | 10.1     |
>>>>>>>>> | low qual |  7.6    |  7.6     |
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> videos here:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQJfbKE8P1w
>>>>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzhjgpt4BRQ
>>>>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrLb3T0cLts
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7uFPoerbe4
>>>>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vM6B0MF-n1s
>>>>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m37GTJKHiHo
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> no artifacts, no stuttering in compositing (well no more
>>> stuttering
>>>>>>> that in
>>>>>>>>> non-composited mode when framerates are low anyway). actual
>>>>> framerate
>>>>>>> cost
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> compositing .. in a window = 4% framerate drop for the fastest
>>>>> tests.
>>>>>>> 2%
>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>> the more "intense" tests and fore the most intense.. no drop
>>> at
>>>>> all.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> of course if i ran this fullscreen (ie window fills the
>>> entire root
>>>>>>>>> window) e17
>>>>>>>>> turns compositing off (unless you go disable that feature)
>>> and so
>>>>> its
>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>> even
>>>>>>>>> standing in the way of the app and the screen it draws to, so
>>> its
>>>>> not
>>>>>>> very
>>>>>>>>> relevant to benchmark that as it boils down to a pass-through
>>>>> unless
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>> some really big driver bugs.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am"
>>>>>>> --------------
>>>>>>>>> The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)    ras...@rasterman.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
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>>>
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