On Wed, 29 Feb 2012 00:55:35 -0500 Christopher Michael <cpmicha...@comcast.net> said:
and as i said to chris.. what does: export ELM_GL_INFO=1 expedite -e gl say? lets go one step further and log module goop: export EINA_LOG_LEVELS=eina_module:4 now what? > sorry for the top post.... > > iirc...old man is almost always right. when he's wrong, is still right > in ways ;) > > dh > > On 02/28/2012 10:32 PM, Wido wrote: > > Ok, so I got really really mad and nuked all the E prefix (which was > > /opt). I also discovered that there were some ancient old EFL libs laying > > around un /usr/local. In fact, so ancient that there were still ewl and etk > > stuff....I nuke all those dirs as well. > > > > Then, I kept looking for that egl_dri2.so file, and i happens to be > > installed with libegl1-mesa package. But I'm using NV drivers (I nuke and > > reinstall them as well, before I did with EFL). > > > > So, after deleting everything, reinstalling video drivers and recompiling > > all the EFL....I just like before and expedite keeps giving the same error > > > > El 28 de febrero de 2012 21:53, Wido<wido...@gmail.com> escribió: > > > >> I'm getting: > >> > >> expedite: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/egl/egl_dri2.so: > >> undefined symbol: _glapi_get_proc_address > >> > >> but that lib is there: > >> > >> $ ls -l /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/egl/egl_dri2.so > >> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 28172 ago 7 2011 > >> /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/egl/egl_dri2.so > >> > >> so I think I messed my libs somehow xD > >> > >> El 28 de febrero de 2012 20:56, Carsten > >> Haitzler<ras...@rasterman.com>escribió: > >> > >> On Tue, 28 Feb 2012 11:56:39 -0600 Chris Story<kc5...@gmail.com> said: > >>> > >>> do you perhaps have multiple efl installs in different prefixes eg /usr > >>> and /usr/local or /usr/local and /opt/e or something? as such to get some > >>> cmdline fun try: > >>> > >>> export EVAS_GL_INFO=1 > >>> expedite -e gl > >>> > >>> does that come up? if not - what does it complain about. if ti comes > >>> up... what > >>> does it report? > >>> > >>>> Raster -- > >>>> > >>>> I am also getting the message regarding software mode OpenGL and am > >>> using > >>>> the Nvidia proprietary drivers in Ubuntu 11.10. I am able to compile E > >>>> without issue from the svn and the gl_x11 module is compiled in evas. My > >>>> logs are below. SVN version is 68512. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Thanks, > >>>> c0re > >>>> > >>>> Evas Logs: > >>>> > >>>> Engines: > >>>> Software Memory Buffer.....: yes > >>>> Software X11...............: yes (Xlib: yes) (XCB: no) > >>>> OpenGL X11.................: yes (Xlib: yes) (XCB: no) (GLES: no) > >>>> (SGX: no) (s3c6410: no) > >>>> > >>>> Ecore Logs: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Ecore_X (Xlib backend).......: yes > >>>> Xcursor....................: yes > >>>> Xkb........................: yes > >>>> Xprint.....................: no > >>>> Xinerama...................: yes > >>>> Xrandr.....................: yes > >>>> Xgesture...................: no > >>>> Xscreensaver...............: no > >>>> Xrender....................: yes > >>>> Xcomposite.................: yes > >>>> Xfixes.....................: yes > >>>> Xdamage....................: yes > >>>> Xdpms......................: yes > >>>> Xtest......................: no > >>>> XIM........................: yes > >>>> Xi2........................: yes > >>>> Ecore_Win32..................: no > >>>> Ecore_Cocoa..................: no > >>>> Ecore_SDL....................: no > >>>> Ecore_FB.....................: yes > >>>> Touchscreen................: no > >>>> Ecore_DirectFB...............: no > >>>> Ecore_WinCE..................: no > >>>> Ecore_PSL1GHT................: no > >>>> Ecore_Wayland................: no > >>>> > >>>> Ecore Evas: > >>>> > >>>> Ecore_Evas...................: yes > >>>> Software Memory Buffer.....: yes > >>>> Software X11...............: yes (Xlib=yes) (XCB=no) > >>>> OpenGL X11.................: yes (Xlib=yes) (XCB=no) > >>>> Software GDI...............: no > >>>> Software DirectDraw........: no > >>>> Direct3D...................: no > >>>> OpenGL Glew................: no > >>>> Software SDL...............: no > >>>> OpenGL SDL.................: no > >>>> OpenGL Cocoa...............: no > >>>> DirectFB...................: no > >>>> PSL1GHT....................: no > >>>> Software Framebuffer.......: yes > >>>> Software 8bit grayscale XCB: no > >>>> Software 16bit X11.........: no > >>>> Software 16bit DirectDraw..: no > >>>> Software 16bit WinCE.......: no > >>>> Sing.Proc. Windowing System: yes > >>>> Wayland Shm................: no > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> glxinfo|grep OpenGL > >>>> > >>>> OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation > >>>> OpenGL renderer string: GeForce 7300 GS/PCI/SSE2 > >>>> OpenGL version string: 2.1.2 NVIDIA 173.14.30 > >>>> OpenGL shading language version string: 1.20 NVIDIA via Cg compiler > >>>> OpenGL extensions: > >>>> > >>>> Xorg.log: > >>>> > >>>> [ 42195.119] (**) ModulePath set to > >>>> "/usr/lib/nvidia-173-updates/xorg,/usr/lib/xorg/modules" > >>>> [ 42195.119] (**) Extension "Composite" is enabled > >>>> [ 42195.119] (WW) Hotplugging is on, devices using drivers 'kbd', > >>>> 'mouse' or 'vmmouse' will be disabled. > >>>> [ 42195.119] (WW) Disabling Mouse0 > >>>> [ 42195.119] (WW) Disabling Keyboard0 > >>>> [ 42195.119] (II) Loader magic: 0x7e0220 > >>>> [ 42195.119] (II) Module ABI versions: > >>>> [ 42195.119] X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4 > >>>> [ 42195.119] X.Org Video Driver: 10.0 > >>>> [ 42195.119] X.Org XInput driver : 12.3 > >>>> [ 42195.119] X.Org Server Extension : 5.0 > >>>> [ 42195.121] (--) PCI:*(0:1:0:0) 10de:01df:0000:0000 rev 161, Mem @ > >>>> 0xfa000000/16777216, 0xe0000000/268435456, 0xfb000000/16777216, BIOS @ > >>>> 0x????????/131072 > >>>> [ 42195.121] (--) PCI: (0:3:0:0) 14f1:8852:0070:7911 rev 3, Mem @ > >>>> 0xfda00000/2097152 > >>>> [ 42195.121] (II) Open ACPI successful (/var/run/acpid.socket) > >>>> [ 42195.121] (II) "extmod" will be loaded. This was enabled by > >>> default > >>>> and also specified in the config file. > >>>> [ 42195.121] (II) "dbe" will be loaded. This was enabled by default > >>> and > >>>> also specified in the config file. > >>>> [ 42195.121] (II) "glx" will be loaded. This was enabled by default > >>> and > >>>> also specified in the config file. > >>>> [ 42195.121] (II) "record" will be loaded. This was enabled by > >>> default > >>>> and also specified in the config file. > >>>> [ 42195.125] (II) "dri" will be loaded by default. > >>>> [ 42195.125] (II) "dri2" will be loaded. This was enabled by default > >>>> and also specified in the config file. > >>>> [ 42195.125] (II) LoadModule: "dri2" > >>>> [ 42195.125] (II) Loading > >>> /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdri2.so > >>>> [ 42195.126] (II) Module dri2: vendor="X.Org Foundation" > >>>> [ 42195.126] compiled for 1.10.4, module version = 1.2.0 > >>>> [ 42195.126] ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 5.0 > >>>> [ 42195.126] (II) Loading extension DRI2 > >>>> [ 42195.126] (II) LoadModule: "glx" > >>>> [ 42195.126] (II) Loading /usr/lib/nvidia-173-updates/xorg/libglx.so > >>>> [ 42195.134] (II) Module glx: vendor="NVIDIA Corporation" > >>>> [ 42195.134] compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.0 > >>>> [ 42195.134] Module class: X.Org Server Extension > >>>> [ 42195.134] (II) NVIDIA GLX Module 173.14.30 Sat Apr 16 22:45:09 > >>> PDT > >>>> 2011 > >>>> [ 42195.134] (II) Loading extension GLX > >>>> [ 42195.134] (II) LoadModule: "record" > >>>> [ 42195.134] (II) Loading > >>> /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/librecord.so > >>>> [ 42195.135] (II) Module record: vendor="X.Org Foundation" > >>>> [ 42195.135] compiled for 1.10.4, module version = 1.13.0 > >>>> [ 42195.135] Module class: X.Org Server Extension > >>>> [ 42195.135] ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 5.0 > >>>> [ 42195.135] (II) Loading extension RECORD > >>>> [ 42195.135] (II) LoadModule: "extmod" > >>>> [ 42195.135] (II) Loading > >>> /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libextmod.so > >>>> [ 42195.135] (II) Module extmod: vendor="X.Org Foundation" > >>>> [ 42195.135] compiled for 1.10.4, module version = 1.0.0 > >>>> [ 42195.135] Module class: X.Org Server Extension > >>>> [ 42195.135] ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 5.0 > >>>> [ 42195.135] (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER > >>>> [ 42195.135] (II) Loading extension XFree86-VidModeExtension > >>>> [ 42195.135] (II) Loading extension XFree86-DGA > >>>> [ 42195.135] (II) Loading extension DPMS > >>>> [ 42195.135] (II) Loading extension XVideo > >>>> [ 42195.135] (II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation > >>>> [ 42195.135] (II) Loading extension X-Resource > >>>> [ 42195.135] (II) LoadModule: "dbe" > >>>> [ 42195.135] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdbe.so > >>>> [ 42195.135] (II) Module dbe: vendor="X.Org Foundation" > >>>> [ 42195.135] compiled for 1.10.4, module version = 1.0.0 > >>>> [ 42195.135] Module class: X.Org Server Extension > >>>> [ 42195.135] ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 5.0 > >>>> [ 42195.135] (II) Loading extension DOUBLE-BUFFER > >>>> [ 42195.135] (II) LoadModule: "dri" > >>>> [ 42195.136] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdri.so > >>>> [ 42195.136] (II) Module dri: vendor="X.Org Foundation" > >>>> [ 42195.136] compiled for 1.10.4, module version = 1.0.0 > >>>> [ 42195.136] ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 5.0 > >>>> [ 42195.136] (II) Loading extension XFree86-DRI > >>>> [ 42195.136] (II) LoadModule: "nvidia" > >>>> [ 42195.136] (II) Loading > >>> /usr/lib/nvidia-173-updates/xorg/nvidia_drv.so > >>>> [ 42195.136] (II) Module nvidia: vendor="NVIDIA Corporation" > >>>> [ 42195.136] compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.0 > >>>> [ 42195.136] Module class: X.Org Video Driver > >>>> [ 42195.136] (II) NVIDIA dlloader X Driver 173.14.30 Sat Apr 16 > >>>> 22:18:29 PDT 2011 > >>>> [ 42195.136] (II) NVIDIA Unified Driver for all Supported NVIDIA > >>> GPUs > >>>> [ 42195.136] (--) using VT number 8 > >>>> [ 42195.145] (II) Loading sub module "fb" > >>>> [ 42195.145] (II) LoadModule: "fb" > >>>> [ 42195.145] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libfb.so > >>>> [ 42195.145] (II) Module fb: vendor="X.Org Foundation" > >>>> [ 42195.145] compiled for 1.10.4, module version = 1.0.0 > >>>> [ 42195.145] ABI class: X.Org ANSI C Emulation, version 0.4 > >>>> [ 42195.145] (II) Loading sub module "wfb" > >>>> [ 42195.145] (II) LoadModule: "wfb" > >>>> [ 42195.145] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libwfb.so > >>>> [ 42195.145] (II) Module wfb: vendor="X.Org Foundation" > >>>> [ 42195.145] compiled for 1.10.4, module version = 1.0.0 > >>>> [ 42195.145] ABI class: X.Org ANSI C Emulation, version 0.4 > >>>> [ 42195.145] (II) Loading sub module "ramdac" > >>>> [ 42195.145] (II) LoadModule: "ramdac" > >>>> [ 42195.145] (II) Module "ramdac" already built-in > >>>> [ 42195.145] (II) Loading > >>> /usr/lib/nvidia-173-updates/xorg/nvidia_drv.so > >>>> [ 42195.145] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libwfb.so > >>>> [ 42195.145] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libfb.so > >>>> [ 42195.146] (==) NVIDIA(0): Depth 24, (==) framebuffer bpp 32 > >>>> [ 42195.146] (==) NVIDIA(0): RGB weight 888 > >>>> [ 42195.146] (==) NVIDIA(0): Default visual is TrueColor > >>>> [ 42195.146] (==) NVIDIA(0): Using gamma correction (1.0, 1.0, 1.0) > >>>> [ 42195.146] (**) NVIDIA(0): Enabling RENDER acceleration > >>>> [ 42195.146] (II) NVIDIA(0): Support for GLX with the Damage and > >>>> Composite X extensions is > >>>> [ 42195.146] (II) NVIDIA(0): enabled. > >>>> [ 42195.792] (II) NVIDIA(0): NVIDIA GPU GeForce 7300 GS (G72) at > >>>> PCI:1:0:0 (GPU-0) > >>>> [ 42195.792] (--) NVIDIA(0): Memory: 524288 kBytes > >>>> [ 42195.792] (--) NVIDIA(0): VideoBIOS: 05.72.22.43.01 > >>>> [ 42195.792] (II) NVIDIA(0): Detected PCI Express Link width: 16X > >>>> [ 42195.792] (--) NVIDIA(0): Interlaced video modes are supported on > >>>> this GPU > >>>> [ 42195.792] (--) NVIDIA(0): Connected display device(s) on GeForce > >>>> 7300 GS at PCI:1:0:0: > >>>> [ 42195.792] (--) NVIDIA(0): ViewSonic VA902b (CRT-0) > >>>> [ 42195.792] (--) NVIDIA(0): ViewSonic VA902b (CRT-0): 400.0 MHz > >>>> maximum pixel clock > >>>> [ 42195.793] (II) NVIDIA(0): Assigned Display Device: CRT-0 > >>>> [ 42195.793] (==) NVIDIA(0): > >>>> [ 42195.793] (==) NVIDIA(0): No modes were requested; the default > >>> mode > >>>> "nvidia-auto-select" > >>>> [ 42195.793] (==) NVIDIA(0): will be used as the requested mode. > >>>> [ 42195.793] (==) NVIDIA(0): > >>>> [ 42195.793] (II) NVIDIA(0): Validated modes: > >>>> [ 42195.793] (II) NVIDIA(0): "nvidia-auto-select" > >>>> [ 42195.793] (II) NVIDIA(0): Virtual screen size determined to be > >>> 1280 > >>>> x 1024 > >>>> [ 42195.794] (--) NVIDIA(0): DPI set to (85, 86); computed from > >>>> "UseEdidDpi" X config > >>>> [ 42195.794] (--) NVIDIA(0): option > >>>> [ 42195.795] (==) NVIDIA(0): Enabling 32-bit ARGB GLX visuals. > >>>> [ 42195.795] (--) Depth 24 pixmap format is 32 bpp > >>>> [ 42195.797] (II) NVIDIA(0): Initialized GPU GART. > >>>> [ 42195.800] (II) NVIDIA(0): Setting mode "nvidia-auto-select" > >>>> [ 42195.884] (II) Loading extension NV-GLX > >>>> [ 42195.901] (II) NVIDIA(0): NVIDIA 3D Acceleration Architecture > >>>> Initialized > >>>> [ 42195.918] (II) NVIDIA(0): Using the NVIDIA 2D acceleration > >>>> architecture > >>>> [ 42195.918] (==) NVIDIA(0): Backing store disabled > >>>> [ 42195.918] (==) NVIDIA(0): Silken mouse enabled > >>>> [ 42195.918] (==) NVIDIA(0): DPMS enabled > >>>> [ 42195.918] (II) Loading extension NV-CONTROL > >>>> [ 42195.918] (==) RandR enabled > >>>> [ 42195.918] (==) RandR enabled > >>>> [ 42195.918] (II) Initializing built-in extension Generic Event > >>>> Extension > >>>> [ 42195.918] (II) Initializing built-in extension SHAPE > >>>> [ 42195.918] (II) Initializing built-in extension MIT-SHM > >>>> [ 42195.918] (II) Initializing built-in extension XInputExtension > >>>> [ 42195.918] (II) Initializing built-in extension XTEST > >>>> [ 42195.918] (II) Initializing built-in extension BIG-REQUESTS > >>>> [ 42195.918] (II) Initializing built-in extension SYNC > >>>> [ 42195.918] (II) Initializing built-in extension XKEYBOARD > >>>> [ 42195.918] (II) Initializing built-in extension XC-MISC > >>>> [ 42195.918] (II) Initializing built-in extension SECURITY > >>>> [ 42195.918] (II) Initializing built-in extension XINERAMA > >>>> [ 42195.918] (II) Initializing built-in extension XFIXES > >>>> [ 42195.918] (II) Initializing built-in extension RENDER > >>>> [ 42195.918] (II) Initializing built-in extension RANDR > >>>> [ 42195.918] (II) Initializing built-in extension COMPOSITE > >>>> [ 42195.918] (II) Initializing built-in extension DAMAGE > >>>> [ 42195.918] (II) Initializing built-in extension GESTURE > >>>> [ 42195.919] (II) Initializing extension GLX > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 8:52 AM, Carsten Haitzler<ras...@rasterman.com > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> On Tue, 28 Feb 2012 10:49:42 -0300 Wido<wido...@gmail.com> said: > >>>>> > >>>>>> Honestly, I can't remember =S. And can't finde the logs either =S =S > >>>>>> > >>>>>> However, I always compile evas with this flags: " > >>>>>> > >>>>>> --enable-word-cache --enable-pipe-render --enable-pthreads > >>>>>> --enable-metric-cache --enable-gles-variety-sgx", so I suppose it > >>> has. > >>>>> For > >>>>>> ecore-evas, I'm not so sure, so just to be really really sure, I > >>> will > >>>>>> recompile them and let you know how it goes > >>>>> > >>>>> well configure spews out all the settings evas/ecore compile with at > >>>>> configure > >>>>> time. > >>>>> > >>>>>> BTW, Is there a way to know if it has? > >>>>> > >>>>> there is a gl_x11 module for evas - another file in > >>>>> PREFIX/lib/evas/modules/engines/ > >>>>> > >>>>> and it has to be named the right architecture like other moduels and > >>> be > >>>>> versioned correctly (all moduels get versioned along with the evas > >>> version > >>>>> so > >>>>> it has to match). > >>>>> > >>>>>> El 28 de febrero de 2012 02:12, Carsten Haitzler > >>>>>> <ras...@rasterman.com>escribió: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Tue, 28 Feb 2012 00:11:34 -0300 Wido<wido...@gmail.com> said: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> did evas and ecore-evas build with evas gl engine support? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I have a GeForce 9800GT, using latest NVidia drivers (OpenGL > >>> version > >>>>>>>> string: 3.3.0 NVIDIA 295.20), recent EFL (Revision: 68223), > >>> recent SO > >>>>>>> libs > >>>>>>>> (debian wheezy, almost up-to-date), and still get that annoying > >>>>> message > >>>>>>>> "Your screen does not support OpenGL. Falling back to software > >>>>> engine" > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> can't figure out what I'm doing wrong =( > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> More specs: > >>>>>>>> server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation > >>>>>>>> client glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation > >>>>>>>> GLX version: 1.4 > >>>>>>>> OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation > >>>>>>>> OpenGL renderer string: GeForce 9800 GT/PCIe/SSE2/3DNOW! > >>>>>>>> OpenGL version string: 3.3.0 NVIDIA 295.20 > >>>>>>>> OpenGL shading language version string: 3.30 NVIDIA via Cg > >>> compiler > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>> > >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> 'magic' Raster's options are enabled: > >>>>>>>> Option "TripleBuffer" "True" > >>>>>>>> Option "Coolbits" "7" > >>>>>>>> Option "UseEvents" "True" > >>>>>>>> Option "OnDemandVBlankInterrupts" "True" > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>> > >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Two monitors, one at 2048x1152, the other 1680x1050. Virtual > >>> screen > >>>>> size > >>>>>>>> determined to be 3728 x 1152 > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>> > >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Overall performance looks ok. But I do notice a downgrade in > >>>>> performance > >>>>>>>> when comp is enabled and youtube strams a video at 720P. Also > >>> notice > >>>>>>>> downgrade in performance when some windows are opened (chrome + > >>>>> couple of > >>>>>>>> konsoles) and I switch virtual desktop > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> El 26 de febrero de 2012 03:36, Carsten Haitzler > >>>>>>>> <ras...@rasterman.com>escribió: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 09:39:04 +1000 David Seikel< > >>> onef...@gmail.com > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> said: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 25 Feb 2012 18:33:09 +0000 Mick< > >>>>> michaelkintz...@gmail.com> > >>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Friday 24 Feb 2012 10:28:22 you wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 09:05:25 +0000 Mick< > >>>>>>> michaelkintz...@gmail.com> > >>>>>>>>>>>> said: > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday 24 Feb 2012 01:05:15 Carsten Haitzler wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 00:57:58 +0000 Mick > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <michaelkintz...@gmail.com> > >>>>>>>>>>> said: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday 24 Feb 2012 00:21:00 Carsten Haitzler > >>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you just need xproto + xlibs. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just remember that compositing will be broken > >>> for > >>>>> you due > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to your server being old anyway, but e/efl will > >>>>> compile > >>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> run but compositing may fail (and we will be > >>> moving > >>>>> to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> compositing only in future). > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oops! Won't we have an option to switch it off > >>> if we > >>>>> want > >>>>>>> to? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in future - no. for e17 release it'll stay a > >>> module, but > >>>>>>> after > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that it'll be compositing only. get used to it - i > >>>>> suggest u > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> use it and report bugs/issues. :) > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, I can't say it is bug(s) but it is a matter of > >>>>> overall > >>>>>>>>>>>>> responsiveness and resources used, especially on older > >>>>> systems. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Composite uses (slightly) more CPU and memory on my > >>> amd64 > >>>>> box > >>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>>>>>>> more so on an old x86 with a PIII on it. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> the lowest-end machine i've use it on is a > >>> pentium-m@600mhz- > >>>>>>>>>>>> it works very well there. sure - not silky smooth but > >>> very > >>>>> usable... > >>>>>>>>>>>> considering its copying mountains of data around and > >>>>> rendering > >>>>>>>>>>>> everything with the cpu (clients included) it's pretty > >>>>> amazing. > >>>>>>> :) > >>>>>>>>>>>> seriously... software compositing is working (decently) > >>> on > >>>>>>>>>>>> PHONES... yes - its a price to pay - software > >>> compositing > >>>>> adds an > >>>>>>>>>>>> extra copy from x to local data first before drawing > >>> and then > >>>>>>>>>>>> writing it back to x - so it adds extra overhead. > >>> theres no > >>>>> zero > >>>>>>>>>>>> copy path like gl + texture-from-pixmap. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Plus when say I watch something in mplayer and I move > >>>>> focus to > >>>>>>>>>>>>> another window, then the mplayer window becomes > >>>>> transparent and > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the picture fades. Since the cursor does not > >>> automatically > >>>>>>> follow > >>>>>>>>>>>>> my eyes I just switch composite off. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> you can select what style u want with compositing - its > >>>>> there in > >>>>>>>>>>>> the comp gui to select. you can have the fading > >>> disabled - > >>>>>>> wobbles > >>>>>>>>>>>> too etc. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Hmmm ... my PIII comes up with this compositor warning: > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> "Your screen does not support OpenGL. Falling back to > >>> software > >>>>>>>>>>> engine" > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> It seems it doesn't like the Radeon Mobility M6 LY that > >>> this > >>>>> old > >>>>>>>>>>> laptop is running. I don't recall having this problem > >>> before. > >>>>> I > >>>>>>>>>>> should try a later snapshot to see if it persists. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> I can see in top enlightenment runs between 3.4 - 5% of > >>> the CPU > >>>>>>> with > >>>>>>>>>>> bursts up to 35.9 - 54% when I move between windows (a > >>> couple > >>>>> of > >>>>>>>>>>> aterms and a xterm). > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Without composite enlightenment shows between 0.5 - 2.5% > >>> of > >>>>> the CPU > >>>>>>>>>>> with bursts up to 7.9% when I move between windows. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> So, yes it is usable, but if I am doing something heavy > >>> on this > >>>>>>>>>>> little box like compiling, compressing files, etc, then it > >>>>> slows > >>>>>>> down > >>>>>>>>>>> noticeably and this is why I would rather give up > >>> compositing > >>>>>>> effects > >>>>>>>>>>> for functionality. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Are there some settings in the composite configuration, > >>> which > >>>>> will > >>>>>>>>>>> minimise the load? > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I'm seeing 30 to 50% of one core being used with the > >>> composite > >>>>> module > >>>>>>>>>> turned on, even worse in software mode, and that was with it > >>>>> sitting > >>>>>>>>>> idle. It did indeed interfere with my 3D app, it > >>> stuttered. I > >>>>>>> jiggled > >>>>>>>>>> the settings somewhat, but did not get much better than > >>> that. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> CPU: AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 840 Processor > >>>>>>>>>> Memory: 3961 MB > >>>>>>>>>> Graphics Card: GeForce GT 220/PCI/SSE2 > >>>>>>>>>> OpenGL Version: 3.2.0 NVIDIA 195.36.24 > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Unloaded the module again. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> wait a sec.. your nvidia drivers are ANCIENT... like from when > >>>>>>> dinosaurs > >>>>>>>>> roamed the earth! get an update man! i can have compositing > >>> on this > >>>>>>> GTS450 > >>>>>>>>> (nvidia) without hassles - yes its more powerful than yours, > >>> but > >>>>> this > >>>>>>>>> really > >>>>>>>>> only matters to complex shaders and really nasty geometry. as > >>> such > >>>>> i > >>>>>>> have > >>>>>>>>> run > >>>>>>>>> and recorded a whole bevy of tests with the unigine heaven > >>>>> benchmark > >>>>>>>>> (modern > >>>>>>>>> game engine that supports linux along with other platforms). > >>> i can > >>>>>>> enable > >>>>>>>>> or > >>>>>>>>> disable tessellation and tessellation HURTS per - but thats > >>>>> irrelevant > >>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>>> compositing other than showing that a very complex gl using > >>> game > >>>>> can > >>>>>>> work > >>>>>>>>> without issues with compositing on. as such performance isnt > >>> great > >>>>>>> until i > >>>>>>>>> tune > >>>>>>>>> down quality to absolute lowest levels. also remember i have 2 > >>>>> screens > >>>>>>>>> (3520x1120). results: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> | test | comp on | comp off | > >>>>>>>>> | tess on | 43.6 | 45.5 | > >>>>>>>>> | tess off | 9.9 | 10.1 | > >>>>>>>>> | low qual | 7.6 | 7.6 | > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> videos here: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQJfbKE8P1w > >>>>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzhjgpt4BRQ > >>>>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrLb3T0cLts > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7uFPoerbe4 > >>>>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vM6B0MF-n1s > >>>>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m37GTJKHiHo > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> no artifacts, no stuttering in compositing (well no more > >>> stuttering > >>>>>>> that in > >>>>>>>>> non-composited mode when framerates are low anyway). actual > >>>>> framerate > >>>>>>> cost > >>>>>>>>> of > >>>>>>>>> compositing .. in a window = 4% framerate drop for the fastest > >>>>> tests. > >>>>>>> 2% > >>>>>>>>> for > >>>>>>>>> the more "intense" tests and fore the most intense.. no drop > >>> at > >>>>> all. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> of course if i ran this fullscreen (ie window fills the > >>> entire root > >>>>>>>>> window) e17 > >>>>>>>>> turns compositing off (unless you go disable that feature) > >>> and so > >>>>> its > >>>>>>> not > >>>>>>>>> even > >>>>>>>>> standing in the way of the app and the screen it draws to, so > >>> its > >>>>> not > >>>>>>> very > >>>>>>>>> relevant to benchmark that as it boils down to a pass-through > >>>>> unless > >>>>>>> you > >>>>>>>>> have > >>>>>>>>> some really big driver bugs. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>> ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" > >>>>>>> -------------- > >>>>>>>>> The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) ras...@rasterman.com > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>> > >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >>>>>>>>> Virtualization& Cloud Management Using Capacity Planning > >>>>>>>>> Cloud computing makes use of virtualization - but cloud > >>> computing > >>>>>>>>> also focuses on allowing computing to be delivered as a > >>> service. > >>>>>>>>> http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51521223/ > >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>>>> enlightenment-users mailing list > >>>>>>>>> enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net > >>>>>>>>> > >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>> Wido > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>> > >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >>>>>>>> Keep Your Developer Skills Current with LearnDevNow! > >>>>>>>> The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft > >>>>> developers > >>>>>>>> is just $99.99! 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