Interesting...but the assumption is that data only becomes information when
it is transmitted from one source to another. But information 'intelligence'
can be derived from without.

On Jun 4, 2011 4:54 PM, "Lonnie Clay" <claylon...@comcast.net> wrote:
> Wonderful to hear from you einseele, especially on this topic!
>
> Information in isolation, taken out of context one bit at a time, is
> incompressible, and often binary. However, even a simple yes/no DOES have
> context because it is subject to the experiential base of the receiving
> awareness/computational entity. So *I* maintain that information is ALWAYS

> compressible until it reaches a critical limit of uncertainty based upon
> each unique receiver's experiential base.
>
> The question then devolves to "How many receiver's sensoriums do I desire
to
> attain comprehension of my message?" That depends upon objectives of the
> sender. Furthermore, the question arises as to the impact of
> miscommunication upon those who are not the objectives of a particular
> message's transmission dispersal. Interception of messages outside the
> transmitter's intended routing list is so common as to be taken as a
given.
> *I* maintain therefor that the optimum composition strategy for messages
> MUST include as a PRIMARY objective the goal of making messages not only
> incomprehensible outside of the routing list, but also contain content
such
> that each intercepted message will be DISCARDED as "nonsense" by
> interceptors outside of the routing list of intended recipients. By
> following this precept there is little harm which will occur due to
messages
> scattered freely to the public, such as my messages on the internet...
>
> I estimate that limited comprehension of the surface text of the above
> statements can be attained by 1% of the population. Deeper understanding
of
> the implications can be attained by 0.1% of the population. Since it is
> intuitively obvious to those who have provided intelligence tests to me,
> that due to my scoring at the 0.1% level of intelligence on a consistent
> basis that my intelligence must be at the 0.1% level rather than (for
> example) at the 1 per billion level, then there can't possibly be anything

> even deeper to be discerned. However, I note that sometimes *I* surprise
> even *myself* by how cute or clever I have been in past postings.
>
> What might those further hidden meanings be? *GOD* only knows LOLOL...
>
> Lonnie Courtney Clay
>
>
> On Saturday, June 4, 2011 4:35:29 AM UTC-7, einseele wrote:
>>
>> Which is the compression limit
>> Physics teaches that such limit is mass
>>
>> So the question is. Which is the limit for information compression.
>>
>> The answer to this question is about information itself.
>>
>> If information cannot be compressed beyond certain limit, then
>> information has mass.
>>
>> If information can be compressed limitless, then information does not
>> consist of a mass, therefore is not compressible.
>>
>> I believe this is the case, and the next question should be.
>> Well, if information has no mass, what are we compressing in its
>> place, and where and what is information.
>
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