We have an outfit called UKIP (UK Independence Party) under-cutting the Tory vote - they have a couple of EU MPs - odd with a policy of exit from EU but down to proportional representation for that body. They don't get enough votes to get anyone in Westminster - but probably take 15% natural Tory support. We have our own Nazis - the BNP - sometimes taking 9%. Hence the Tory referendum ploy. Mass politics here is a dumb as in the US - though we haven't thrown up anything as bad as that basketball player shagger from your frozen North yet. Our closest is Nick Griffin (BNP leader) - he'd be a real problem if as pretty as Palin - but looks like a squit-eyed pig after failed botox applications.
We should be in the EU - tough much of it is farcical. The Parliament sits in Brussels and Strasbourg (for a month) and various Mafia steal funding - the whole shebang ain't democratic - and we need a modern, electronic Parliament and a federal structure. On Jan 29, 6:59 pm, nominal9 <nomin...@yahoo.com> wrote: > I'm not up on European (and British) politics....at your level. It appears > to me that "big" ventures require "big" wallets, both at the private or the > public levels. Smaller or less developed countries and economies just > cannot do the "big-ticket" items... the big factories or the big research > ventures....I cannot see an "isolationist" Britain "going it alone" in this > day and age. In this sense, the Tories' vision is anachronistic, to say the > least, (it appears to me) it cannot "work"... > > The key issue is immigration in this fantasy and > stopping the Eastern and Southern Europeans 'taking our houses and > jobs'. / Archytas > > Ah yes.....Racism and bigotry is "always" the Right-wingers' preferred > "ally"..... > > > > > > > > On Monday, January 28, 2013 8:09:56 AM UTC-5, archytas wrote: > > > Sadly some think the EU is important. The ruse has given the Tories a > > lead in the polls as most Brits think of the EU as a bureaucratic > > monster. I'd have thrown in with the US as the next five states long > > ago - but we are in decline and have little clue why. US/EU > > membership isn't really important - we should have moved more global > > in politics and less so in production and cheap energy grabbing long > > ago. The structural problems in our economies can't be addressed > > sensibly at the moment because of the money focus. With no focus on > > reality we look to the pool of ignorance to maintain government - the > > EU is irrelevant to anything other than maintaining the Tories on the > > basis of an isolationist UK - presumably as the offshore hub on money > > dodging EU taxation. The key issue is immigration in this fantasy and > > stopping the Eastern and Southern Europeans 'taking our houses and > > jobs'. > > > On Jan 25, 3:59 pm, nominal9 <nomin...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > >http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-21158318 > > > > Sounds to me that it "might" be time for Britain to show some > > "Righteous > > > Indignation" and "break" Cameron and the Tories' government..... HAR... > > > Instead? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Epistemology" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to epistemology+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to epistemology@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/epistemology?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.