We really only have two main parties Nom - Labour and Conservative. The Greens, UKIP and BNP are largely irrelevant because we don't have PR and the Liberal Democrats don't usually play much of a role but poll about 8 - 15 %. They are currently part of a coalition with the Tories. I guess most of us feel all this has proved is that people who seemed decent when not really in the contest are total shits once in government. I agree your economic summary. On those of us not rich, I'd point to the fact that the bottom 50% had 14% of liquid assets around 1980 and that's down to 1% - if we don't scrap the financial system this won't improve. The problem has been allowing global arbitrage on wages and job conditions.
On Feb 2, 5:44 pm, nominal9 <nomin...@yahoo.com> wrote: > filibuster for the Senate... house has Republican majority....just to set > the record straight.... writing lapse... > > > > > > > > On Friday, February 1, 2013 1:05:36 PM UTC-5, nominal9 wrote: > > > Parliamentary govt. has its pros and cons.....What I like is your > > multitude of political parties, as compared to the U.S...... here there are > > two with maybe a handful of registered "independents" at the U.S. federal > > level... one thing about a multitude of parties is that it tends to isolate > > the radical fringes... and cooperation at the middle seems facilitated > > (what do you think?).... here, the right-wing Republicans (by filibuster) > > have been stymieing legislation in the U.S. House for the whole period of > > the Obama administration..... > > Palin is pretty much on the outs... she even lost her TV contract with Fox > > News media... I do not wish her ill, but I think her political days are > > over. > > You know... speaking of Fox (Rupert Murdoch owned, I think you know), > > there's one economics news personality named "Stuart Varney"... British > > fellow... did he do much in England?... he's quite the "tool" over here.... > > makes me chuckle with the propaganda and inanities he puts out.... but his > > English accent and delivery re quite "convincing"... there are quite a few > > British TV personalities, especially on cable TV channels.... the > > accent.... it's worth (must be) 50% toward getting hired on, here , I'd say > > HAR. > > Economy is on everyone's mind... as it should be.... Unemployment rate > > this month ticked up one decimal point to 7.9%. But today the Stock Market > > index (Dow) is hovering around 14000, hasn't been there since 2007. So, > > here at least.... the fat cats are getting fatter (they were fed plenty by > > the Govt bailouts) but the rest of the peons are struggling.....Capitalist > > economic growth model theories would seem to suggest that those without are > > pretty much out of the recovery, for a generation at least.... What does > > your expertise suggest, Archytas? > > Britain, I hear, has not seen any appreciable recovery in the > > "markets".... am I correct in this? > > >http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2013/01/25/1494541/austerity-pushes-... > > >http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/01/31/us-funds-poll-britain-idUSB... > > Austerity... is that the cause?..... or is it something systemic or > > institutional with the banks and banksters (as you call them).... are they > > still hemorrhaging money?.... or hoarding it?.... which could cause the > > same effect? > > I'm the novice.... how do you see it? > > > On Friday, February 1, 2013 8:23:59 AM UTC-5, archytas wrote: > > >> We have an outfit called UKIP (UK Independence Party) under-cutting > >> the Tory vote - they have a couple of EU MPs - odd with a policy of > >> exit from EU but down to proportional representation for that body. > >> They don't get enough votes to get anyone in Westminster - but > >> probably take 15% natural Tory support. We have our own Nazis - the > >> BNP - sometimes taking 9%. Hence the Tory referendum ploy. Mass > >> politics here is a dumb as in the US - though we haven't thrown up > >> anything as bad as that basketball player shagger from your frozen > >> North yet. Our closest is Nick Griffin (BNP leader) - he'd be a real > >> problem if as pretty as Palin - but looks like a squit-eyed pig after > >> failed botox applications. > > >> We should be in the EU - tough much of it is farcical. The Parliament > >> sits in Brussels and Strasbourg (for a month) and various Mafia steal > >> funding - the whole shebang ain't democratic - and we need a modern, > >> electronic Parliament and a federal structure. > > >> On Jan 29, 6:59 pm, nominal9 <nomin...@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> > I'm not up on European (and British) politics....at your level. It > >> appears > >> > to me that "big" ventures require "big" wallets, both at the private or > >> the > >> > public levels. Smaller or less developed countries and economies just > >> > cannot do the "big-ticket" items... the big factories or the big > >> research > >> > ventures....I cannot see an "isolationist" Britain "going it alone" in > >> this > >> > day and age. In this sense, the Tories' vision is anachronistic, to say > >> the > >> > least, (it appears to me) it cannot "work"... > > >> > The key issue is immigration in this fantasy and > >> > stopping the Eastern and Southern Europeans 'taking our houses and > >> > jobs'. / Archytas > > >> > Ah yes.....Racism and bigotry is "always" the Right-wingers' preferred > >> > "ally"..... > > >> > On Monday, January 28, 2013 8:09:56 AM UTC-5, archytas wrote: > > >> > > Sadly some think the EU is important. The ruse has given the Tories > >> a > >> > > lead in the polls as most Brits think of the EU as a bureaucratic > >> > > monster. I'd have thrown in with the US as the next five states long > >> > > ago - but we are in decline and have little clue why. US/EU > >> > > membership isn't really important - we should have moved more global > >> > > in politics and less so in production and cheap energy grabbing long > >> > > ago. The structural problems in our economies can't be addressed > >> > > sensibly at the moment because of the money focus. With no focus on > >> > > reality we look to the pool of ignorance to maintain government - the > >> > > EU is irrelevant to anything other than maintaining the Tories on the > >> > > basis of an isolationist UK - presumably as the offshore hub on money > >> > > dodging EU taxation. The key issue is immigration in this fantasy > >> and > >> > > stopping the Eastern and Southern Europeans 'taking our houses and > >> > > jobs'. > > >> > > On Jan 25, 3:59 pm, nominal9 <nomin...@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> > > >http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-21158318 > > >> > > > Sounds to me that it "might" be time for Britain to show some > >> > > "Righteous > >> > > > Indignation" and "break" Cameron and the Tories' government..... > >> HAR... > >> > > > Instead? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Epistemology" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to epistemology+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to epistemology@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/epistemology?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
