Parliamentary govt.  has its pros and cons.....What I like is your 
multitude of political parties, as compared to the U.S...... here there are 
two with maybe a handful of registered "independents" at the U.S. federal 
level... one thing about a multitude of parties is that it tends to isolate 
the radical fringes... and cooperation at the middle seems facilitated 
(what do you think?).... here, the right-wing Republicans (by filibuster) 
have been stymieing legislation in the U.S. House for the whole period of 
the Obama administration.....
Palin is pretty much on the outs... she even lost her TV contract with Fox 
News media... I do not wish her ill, but I think her political days are 
over. 
You know... speaking of Fox (Rupert Murdoch owned, I think you know), 
there's one economics news personality  named "Stuart Varney"... British 
fellow... did he do much in England?... he's quite the "tool" over here.... 
makes me chuckle with the propaganda and inanities he puts out.... but his 
English accent and delivery re quite "convincing"... there are quite a few 
British TV personalities, especially on cable TV channels.... the 
accent.... it's worth (must be) 50% toward getting hired on, here , I'd say 
HAR.
Economy is on everyone's mind... as it should be.... Unemployment rate this 
month ticked up one decimal point  to 7.9%. But today the Stock Market 
index (Dow) is hovering around 14000, hasn't been there since 2007. So, 
here at least.... the fat cats are getting fatter (they were fed  plenty by 
the Govt bailouts) but the rest of the peons are struggling.....Capitalist 
economic growth model theories would seem to suggest that those without are 
pretty much out of the recovery, for a generation at least.... What does 
your expertise suggest, Archytas?
Britain, I hear, has not seen any appreciable recovery in the "markets".... 
am I correct in this?
http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2013/01/25/1494541/austerity-pushes-british-economy-toward-triple-dip-recession/?mobile=nc
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/01/31/us-funds-poll-britain-idUSBRE90U0SL20130131
Austerity... is that the cause?..... or is it something systemic or 
institutional with the banks and banksters (as you call them).... are they 
still hemorrhaging money?.... or hoarding it?.... which could cause the 
same effect?
I'm the novice.... how do you see it?





On Friday, February 1, 2013 8:23:59 AM UTC-5, archytas wrote:
>
> We have an outfit called UKIP (UK Independence Party) under-cutting 
> the Tory vote - they have a couple of EU MPs - odd with a policy of 
> exit from EU but down to proportional representation for that body. 
> They don't get enough votes to get anyone in Westminster - but 
> probably take 15% natural Tory support.  We have our own Nazis - the 
> BNP - sometimes taking 9%.  Hence the Tory referendum ploy.  Mass 
> politics here is a dumb as in the US - though we haven't thrown up 
> anything as bad as that basketball player shagger from your frozen 
> North yet.  Our closest is Nick Griffin (BNP leader) - he'd be a real 
> problem if as pretty as Palin - but looks like a squit-eyed pig after 
> failed botox applications. 
>
> We should be in the EU - tough much of it is farcical.  The Parliament 
> sits in Brussels and Strasbourg (for a month) and various Mafia steal 
> funding - the whole shebang ain't democratic - and we need a modern, 
> electronic Parliament and a federal structure. 
>
>
> On Jan 29, 6:59 pm, nominal9 <nomin...@yahoo.com> wrote: 
> > I'm not up on European (and British) politics....at your level. It 
> appears 
> > to me that "big" ventures require "big" wallets, both at the private or 
> the 
> > public levels. Smaller or less developed countries and economies just 
> > cannot do the "big-ticket" items... the big factories or the big 
> research 
> > ventures....I cannot see an "isolationist" Britain "going it alone" in 
> this 
> > day and age. In this sense, the Tories' vision is anachronistic, to say 
> the 
> > least, (it appears to me) it cannot "work"... 
> > 
> > The key issue is immigration in this fantasy and 
> > stopping the Eastern and Southern Europeans 'taking our houses and 
> > jobs'.  / Archytas 
> > 
> > Ah yes.....Racism and bigotry is "always" the Right-wingers' preferred 
> > "ally"..... 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Monday, January 28, 2013 8:09:56 AM UTC-5, archytas wrote: 
> > 
> > > Sadly some think the EU is important.  The ruse has given the Tories a 
> > > lead in the polls as most Brits think of the EU as a bureaucratic 
> > > monster.  I'd have thrown in with the US as the next five states long 
> > > ago - but we are in decline and have little clue why.  US/EU 
> > > membership isn't really important - we should have moved more global 
> > > in politics and less so in production and cheap energy grabbing long 
> > > ago.  The structural problems in our economies can't be addressed 
> > > sensibly at the moment because of the money focus.  With no focus on 
> > > reality we look to the pool of ignorance to maintain government - the 
> > > EU is irrelevant to anything other than maintaining the Tories on the 
> > > basis of an isolationist UK - presumably as the offshore hub on money 
> > > dodging EU taxation.  The key issue is immigration in this fantasy and 
> > > stopping the Eastern and Southern Europeans 'taking our houses and 
> > > jobs'. 
> > 
> > > On Jan 25, 3:59 pm, nominal9 <nomin...@yahoo.com> wrote: 
> > > >http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-21158318 
> > 
> > > > Sounds to me that it "might" be time  for Britain to show some 
> > > "Righteous 
> > > > Indignation" and "break" Cameron and the Tories' government..... 
> HAR... 
> > > > Instead? 
>

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