I found a plug I used one time without permission which is not something I would generally do, however, I did not leave the car. I just sat there for 30 minutes or so until I had enough juice to get me a couple of more miles home. The plug was in a strip mall parking lot, but out by the road, not by any stores and it was early in the morning when no stores were open so there was no one to ask for permission. Still, I do believe you should always ask for permission. Sometimes we don't always do what we believe we should and I felt bad about doing it even that once. I considered trying to locate the manager of the lot in case the need came up again in the future, but never ending up doing that and never used the plug again. Having said that, walk around and see how many people there are scrounging for any available plug in to charge their dead cell phone... You don't generally hear about them getting arrested for it and I suspect if the police had seen the same man sitting next to the outlet with his phone or laptop plugged in he would not have had any issues.. damon
> Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 12:48:41 -0600 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: EV owner charged w/ stealing $0.05 worth of juice > (video) > > Agreed. Call me paranoid, but this is exactly the reason I printed up some > "Permission to > Charge" sheets I keep in the glove compartments of my EVs in case I ever need > to plug in > somewhere. I wouldn't plug in unless I got permission from the property > owner, and then > I'd have them just put their name on the form, which says "Vehicle has > permission to plug > in for charging" and the date. Just in case someone (like the police > officer) shows up > and thinks I'm doing something improper. > > This guy should never have plugged in without permission. Think about it -- > he has no > idea what that branch circuit can handle, or what else might be connected to > it. What if > a freezer or some critical piece of equipment is operating on the same > circuit, and the > extra load from the EV trips the breaker with nobody there to reset it? > > Just plain irresponsible. > > -Tom > > On 12/4/2013 12:19 PM, SLPinfo.org wrote: > > Zeke, Lee, and Peri, > > > > I don't disagree. The amount of theft was a pittance, and yes the police > > officer very likely had much more important things to do with his time! > > And taking it to court makes absolutely no sense at all. > > > > But my point is that the magnitude of the crime does not take away from the > > fact that it still was theft. I'm not a parent but we've all heard the > > story of the kid who steals a candy from the store and his parents find out > > about it. The parents make the kid go back to the store, admit to the > > theft, apologize, and make restitution. The parents want to send the > > message that stealing is stealing no matter how small the theft. Or am I > > just too old and no one does this anymore? > > > > Again I don't want to sound holier than thou, but I think the police > > officer was right in this case. > > > > And once again it just makes EV drivers look bad. > > > > - Peter Flipsen Jr > > > > > > On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 9:59 AM, Lee Hart <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> SLPinfo.org wrote: > >> > >>> As true as that might be it doesn't change the fact that this guy took > >>> something that wasn't his and that he didn't have permission to take. The > >>> size is irrelevant. I'm no angel but even I see it as wrong. > >>> > >> No District Attorney in his right mind would take this to court. If he > >> did, a judge is certain to throw the case out. And even if he didn't, > >> what's the fine going to be? A nickel? > >> > >> There are a million "crimes" like this every minute of every day. Every > >> one of us probably commit such "crimes" on occasion. Did you leave the > >> light on in the public restroom? Take an extra napkin from McDonalds? > >> Borrow a pen and forget to return it? They all needlessly cost the company > >> money. > >> > >> I wonder if there is more to the story? Was the Leaf owner belligerent, or > >> was there already "bad blood" between the Leaf owner and police officer? > >> -- > >> Ring the bells that still can ring > >> Forget your perfect offering > >> There is a crack in everything > >> That's how the light gets in. > >> -- Leonard Cohen, from "Anthem" > >> -- > >> Lee Hart -- See my Xmas projects at www.sunrise-ev.com/projects.htm > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > >> http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > >> For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/ > >> group/NEDRA) > >> > >> > > -------------- next part -------------- > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > URL: > > <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20131204/a64a94ee/attachment.htm> > > _______________________________________________ > > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > > For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA > > (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > > > > > > > -- > Thomas Hudson > http://portev.org -- Electric Vehicles, Solar Power & More > http://klanky.com -- Animation Projects > > _______________________________________________ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA > (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20131204/b4705f48/attachment.htm> _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
