On 24 Jul 2020 at 12:39, Willie via EV wrote: > I continue to be amused
Says the guy who, if I'm not mistake, has multiple Teslas. :-\ Lots of us can't even afford ONE Tesla, and we are not so amused. So it's heartening to read that Tesla is finally getting on track to an affordable EV, though personally I'd rather they made it somewhere other than Xi Jinping's China. However, if they're going to play to that market, they have some catching up to do. Volkswagen is forging Chinese automaker partnerships so fast I can barely follow them - FAW, SAIC, JAC. They're still building Chinese factories, but even from their German factories, the ID.3 is well ahead of the Tesla 3 in affordability. When they get the VW/JAC Sol E20X (under US$20k, 50kWh battery, 400km range) in production in China, they'll be hard to beat. For now, Renault is the outside automaker arguably out in front in China with the K-ZE already on the road there (under US$10k, 27kWh battery, 250km range). Renault also has a significant advantage in being allowed to use their own name in China. A tarted-up version of the K-ZE will reach Europe in about a year, to be sold as the Dacia Spring. The Renault Zoe was Europe's #1 selling EV in 2020-H1. Renault has a shot at owning the low end too, if they give the Spring enough range and price it aggressively. But I'm afraid that they'll hobble it, so it doesn't steal sales from Zoe. Either way, it appears to me that some of the traditional automakers are already several meters ahead of Tesla in the cheap and cheerful Chinese EV race. If Tesla stumbles, the big guys have a good shot at lapping them in Asia and Europe, where the future of EVs lies. Owning the US EV market won't be much of a consolation prize for Tesla, with our economy sliding into the dumpster. I hope they nail it. I'll be watching for a $25k Tesla. I'm not so sure I'd actually buy one, not that anyone cares, but I mIght be amused. :-) David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey To reach me, don't reply to this message; I won't get it. Use my offlist address here : http://evdl.org/help/index.html#supt = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = In America, anybody can be president. That's one of the risks you take. -- Adlai Stevenson (1900-1965) = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)