Forwarding post from GGEVA group member Randy Spencer 
On Fri, Jun 9, 2023 at 8:32 AM Randy Spencer via groups.io 
<israndy=yahoo....@groups.io> wrote:

Yes, Tesla is implementing CCS standard 15118 Plug and Charge (as should all 
other Charge Vendors). 
"The user-convenient and secure Plug & Charge feature that envisioned with ISO 
15118 enables an electric vehicle to automatically identify and authorize 
itself to a compatible charging station on behalf of the driver, to receive 
energy for recharging its battery. The only action required by the driver is to 
plug the charging cable into the EV and/or charging station, because the car 
and the charger identify themselves to each other by exchanging certificates 
which were provided beforehand via a certificate pool to facilitate payment.”
That’s the ‘billing' bit that I mentioned earlier, the adapter will be passive 
so communications will go right from the car to the Supercharger or other NACS 
stations.
As to the fuses, I think they are so rare to blow that you’ll be glad to be rid 
of an adapter that did blow, something really bad happened and could have 
caused other damage. If you wanna check the connection more circumspectly 
you’ll need active monitoring and w/o a power source you’d need a battery and 
that could die waiting for you to use the adapter so probably not going to have 
any built like that.

    On Friday, June 9, 2023 at 02:53:13 PM PDT, EV List Lackey via EV 
<ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote:  
 
 On 9 Jun 2023 at 8:04, Tom Keenan via EV wrote:

> I´m curious how Tesla will do billing for non-Tesla vehicles. Will the
> vehicle be identified by the charging station (as Teslas are at
> superchargers?) or will it be via app? 

Dumb question, maybe, but assuming that the terminal is open to all EVs, why 
do they need to identify vehicles at all?  

If the user presents a valid credit card, or maybe an RFID card if you must, 
then let him charge.  Credit cards work just fine for gasoline filling 
stations.  

What am I missing here?

> I also wonder if Tesla will disallow some vehicles (or certain models)
> from charging on the supercharger network if something were to occur,
> such as... a dispute with the other manufacturer? 

Yeah, this. Musk scares me.  I can totally see him doing something like 
this, even if it means losing revenue.

He seems to get weirder and more unpredictable by the day. Watching him 
flush ~$30 billion in value while making Twitter into his own personal 
playground was quite eye--opening.  

I really wonder if he's starting to lose it, maybe partly from overwork.

There'll be adapters to CCS-charge those new NACS Fords and GMs - right?

David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey

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