On Sun, Jul 6, 2025 at 3:21 PM Brent Meeker <[email protected]> wrote:
*>> a person either does something for a reason OR HE DOES NOT do it for a >> reason, and therefore his actions were un-reasonable, AKA random.* > > > *> Taking the first alternative, he does it for a reason and therefore his > actions were reasonable, aka not random.* *OK, then there was a reason, there was a cause for him doing what he did, and the exact same thing would be true of the little birdie that pops out of a cuckoo clock at certain times. * *>> I have no idea what "free-will", compatibilist or otherwise, means. * > > > *> Then you should find out before condemning it.* *Easier said than done! I've been asking people what they mean by "free will" since I was thirteen and I have yet to receive an answer that is both coherent and useful. * > *Compatibilist free-will is so called because it's compatible with > determinism. It says you actions are determined by your perceptions, > experience, genetics etc. * *So saying you have "compatibilist free-will" is just a euphemism for saying you are deterministic. C**ompatibilists have not changed my opinion that **"free will" is best defined as a noise that some people like to make with their mouth, or as the inability to know what the results of a calculation will be until the calculation is finished. Although neither definition is useful, both are at least coherent.* *John K Clark See what's on my new list at Extropolis <https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>* 5r3 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv32zqtQ9HwhNyLGb8zyg%2BL6k4%2Bj8jckx07tVfxpvoSoGg%40mail.gmail.com.
