On Mon, Jul 7, 2025 at 9:05 PM John Clark <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Sun, Jul 6, 2025 at 3:21 PM Brent Meeker <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> *>> a person either does something for a reason OR HE DOES NOT do it for a
>>> reason, and therefore his actions were un-reasonable, AKA random.*
>>
>>
>> *> Taking the first alternative, he does it for a reason and therefore
>> his actions were reasonable, aka not random.*
>
>
> *OK, then there was a reason, there was a cause for him doing what he did,
> and the exact same thing would be true of the little birdie that pops out
> of a cuckoo clock at certain times.  *
>
> *>> I have no idea what "free-will", compatibilist or otherwise, means. *
>>
>>
>> *> Then you should find out before condemning it.*
>
>
> *Easier said than done! I've been asking people what they mean by "free
> will" since I was thirteen and I have yet to receive an answer that is
> both coherent and useful.*
>

So in all that time you have never learnt how to use a Google search on the
word "compatibilism"?


 > *Compatibilist free-will is so called because it's compatible with
>> determinism.  It says you actions are determined by your perceptions,
>> experience, genetics etc. *
>
>
> *So saying you have "compatibilist free-will" is just a euphemism for
> saying you are deterministic. C**ompatibilists have not changed my
> opinion that **"free will" is best defined as a noise that some people
> like to make with their mouth, or as the inability to know what the results
> of a calculation will be until the calculation is finished. Although
> neither definition is useful, both are at least coherent.*
>

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