On 2/14/2012 2:38 PM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:


2012/2/14 Stephen P. King <stephe...@charter.net <mailto:stephe...@charter.net>>

    On 2/14/2012 10:36 AM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:


            The flaw is the entire structure of UDA+MGA, it assumes
        the existence of the very thing that is claims cannot exist.
        It is a theory that predicts that it cannot exist. How? By
        supposedly proving that the physical world does not exist.


    It does not prove that the physical world does not exist... it
    proves that a *primitive* material world is irrelevant to predict
    your next moment, the current physics of the world. Whether there
    is a primitive material world or not cannot change your
    expectation of your next moment, rendering this primitive
    material world devoid of explanatory power.
    HI Quentin,

        What is the difference? Please see my last post to ACW with
    the subject header "Re: On Pre-existing Fields"


The difference is that it is not primary... the physical universe emerge from computations. It should be an invariant in relative deep computation giving rise to consciousness.

Numbers->Computations->consciousness & universe
Hi Quentin,

No, numbers cannot have definite properties absent consciousness, therefore one cannot derive consciousness from mere numbers.

A more correct diagram would be:

Numbers  ->   Computations
    ^                              |
    |                              v
Consciousness <- universes


Onward!

Stephen

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