On Friday, January 11, 2013 5:45:19 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: > > On 1/11/2013 2:25 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote: > > > > On Friday, January 11, 2013 4:45:39 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: >> >> On 1/11/2013 12:13 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote: >> >> What we call light is a visual experience. EM radiation below the visible >> range is felt as heat. This means that the entirety of the character of the >> EM is defined by the receiver-transmitter relation. >> >> >> That's Feynman-Wheeler emitter/absorber theory of EM radiation - they >> couldn't make it work and I doubt that you can either. You seem to be >> ignoring that there is already a unified theory of EM than includes light >> and it explains things like static electricity and electric motors as well >> as most light phenomena. And it does not explain photoelectric effect, the >> black body spectrum, and the stability of atoms - for which you need >> quantum electrodynamics. >> > > I'm not suggesting a literal emission/absorption across space. I say > 'transmitter-receiver' in the figurative sense, as empathy or money are > 'sent'. Static electricity and electric motors seen in the behavior of > matter, not in a vacuum. There is no reason why all observed effects of EM > would not be local to (sensory-motive) matter. > > > They can't all be local because that violates Lorentz invariance. >
Local to all matter in the universe, not to any particular instantiation of matter. > But of course if you want to do it 'figuratively' you can do anything you > want. Maybe you can write instructions on how to be a liberal > metaphysician. > It's not 'anything I want', it's just a different interpretation of energy which, as far as I can tell, would be consistent on all levels of observation. By definition it doesn't contradict any existing theory, but it just models the observations which any theory is based on as material changes conducted non-spatially. I am flipping the entire concept of energy over. It isn't separate from matter. Energy is nothing but what matter does. Not what space does, not what photons do, but what atoms do, or more precisely, what is seen and done through atoms. Craig > Brent > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/everything-list/-/Axe_7SIT1PYJ. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.