It sounds like you are reading straight form a shale play company press
release. You have been sucked up by the hype of America "the next Saudi
Arabia". What about the massive amounts of water pollution - with a witches
brew of chemicals that no one not even the government knows exactly what
they are (trade secrets) - that despite the assurances that it would never
happen is migrating up into the aquifers under the Marcellus and the Bakken
as well as the Ford formations - which are the principle US shale oil and
gas bearing formations. Besides being a very dirty business - that witches
brew of chemicals injected into the ground in a slurry of water containing
poppants under extremely high pressure - i.e. the process of fracking.

The wells in the Bakken and the Marcellus as well as the more mature Ford
formations are experiencing much higher rates of depletion than traditional
wells do, and the depletion is setting in much more quickly. Shale is a
bubble, the pace of drilling is unsustainable, and as soon as it slows
supplies will begin collapsing as the inexorable reality of rapid depletion
sets in. The shale play works only as long as the sector can continue to
sucker uninformed money into it to support the drilling of ever more new
wells.

There is also something else that most people do not understand about shale
oil & gas and tar sands. Even if reserves may be huge - the Canadian Tar
sands (which is turning Alberta into a moon scape of poisoned water and
land) a Canadian national sacrifice zone - the rate of production form this
resource is gated by the availability of both water and in the case of
Canadian tar sands natural gas. Because of these other gating factors the
rate of production will be capped far below what people seem to think.

Mining tar sand is not like drilling for oil. It is much messier, energy
intensive and has a lower energy payback and it the rate at which it can be
extracted is gated by other factors than the size of the reserves.

Chris

 

 

From: everything-list@googlegroups.com
[mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of spudboy...@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 6:50 AM
To: everything-list@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Our Demon-Haunted World

 

Fur sure, that was the truth. Now we got's shale gas, which seems to pay a
lot better, is safer to go after, and is cleaner, carbon-wise. Unless you
are buying into technological unemployment (robots, software) then we have
to face the fact. BHO's Keynesian way has fallen on its ass and has stayed
down, like a fighter throwing a fight, after a payoff. Increased government
employment doesn't seem to generate tax revenue very well. If the state is
the only employer, and that employer fires you, where else are you going to
find another job, Gospodin, Brent.

?? A private company isn't gonna give you any goodies, they're going to make
you earn them and give you as little as possible.  And if you tell them to
go screw themselves they're not even gonna let you work for them.  Look at
the company coal mine towns in Kentucky.  

-----Original Message-----
From: meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net>
To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wed, Nov 6, 2013 8:30 pm
Subject: Re: Our Demon-Haunted World

On 11/6/2013 4:23 PM, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:

BHO is barrack hussein obama, BHO. Government goodies dependency does this
for them. Piss them off and they can take it away. Thats leverage. To a
private company, you can tell them to go screw themselves. 


?? A private company isn't gonna give you any goodies, they're going to make
you earn them and give you as little as possible.  And if you tell them to
go screw themselves they're not even gonna let you work for them.  Look at
the company coal mine towns in Kentucky.  

Brent
"Saint Peter don't you call me cause I can't go. 
I owe my soul to the company store."
        --- folk song

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