On 30 Jun 2014, at 01:20, meekerdb wrote:

On 6/29/2014 1:35 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:

Note that it is an arithmetical fact that arithmetic emulates all simulations. Saying that some of those are more real than other is a metaphysical assumption, and MGA shows that it is a gap-of-the- god type of assumption.

But it is not a physical fact that arithmetic exists.

OK.





And to say that arithmetic emulates all simulations seems to me to 'prove to much'. It's just saying that whatever exists in your physical theory is already in my arithmetical theory.


Yes. But at first sight with the measure all wrong. I submit (and solve partially) that measure problem.

That your physical reality is in the arithmetical reality is trivial. But the UDA shows that the physical reality has to be given by the measure on all computations. It means, roughly, that the SWE ,must be derived from the measure on the sigma_1 sentences, like the collapse phenomenology can be derived from the SWE.



Which is a god-of-the-substrate type argument.

It would be, if we were not just deriving this reversal from a simple general, but fertile, assumption: that we are (universal) machine emulable.

I give a theorem, which leads to a problem. Not a solution. (although a partial one, which already gives a different (than usual) theological perspective.

Bruno

http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/



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