On 26 June 2014 16:10, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote:

> That isn't the reason I gave.  I pointed out that for the consciousness of
> the MGA to be achieved it had to consciousness of a world and that world
> had to have a physics and the consciousness then depended on events and
> processes in that physics.  So while the consciousness was achieved with no
> physical activity in this world, the world which the consciousness was
> conscious of, did have physical activity which from out point of view was
> simulated.
>

I may well find that convincing once I understand the MGA. At the moment it
appears to be all "smoke and mirrors" so to speak -- I just can't get my
head around it, although I *can* see the previous steps, I think, up to the
point at which my consciousness may either exist in a UD running in a
robust universe, or in arithmetical realism, if such a thing exists. Those
at least seem to make sense, whether true or not. But the next step throws
me.


> But as you note "simulated" is meaningless when applied to a whole world.
>

I also noted that (more importantly, IMHO) it's meaningless when applied to
consciousness however it may be instantiated.

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