On 14 April 2015 at 16:31, Quentin Anciaux <allco...@gmail.com> wrote:

>> > Some sort of dualisms could allow duplication others don't. Saying you
>> > can
>> > whatever methaphysical axioms is false. Consciousness could be linked
>> > for
>> > example by an invisible force to your body by an unknown and unknowable
>> > and
>> > unmeasurable link that cannot ne copied or associated to another body.
>> > Starting with if consciousness is duplicable, then letting the if down
>> > *is*
>> > a metaphysical commitment. As far as real science goes we have never
>> > ever
>> > duplicated consciousness. I'm not saying it is not possible, because as
>> > I
>> > recall to you, I mainly believe in computationalism, but right now all
>> > options are open and even if one day we can and do make copies, we're
>> > still
>> > lacking any sharable tests that can without questions prove it or give
>> > enough evidences.
>>
>> Certainly some theories of consciousness might not allow copying, but
>> that cannot be a logical requirement. To claim that something is
>> logically impossible is to claim that it is self-contradictory.
>
> I don't see why a theory saying like I said in the upper paragraph that
> consciousness could not be copied would be selfcontradictory... You have to
> see that when you say consciousness is duplicatable, you assume a lot of
> things about the reality and how it is working, and that you're making a
> metaphysical commitment, a leap of faith concerning what you assume the real
> to be and the reality itself. That's all I'm saying, but clearly if
> computationalism is true consciousness is obviously duplicatable.

I don't see any difference between a metaphysical theory saying
consciousness is not duplicable and one saying bananas are not
duplicable: it is still coherent and non-contradictory to imagine
either entity being duplicated. For consideration of conundrums of
personal identity - which is where this discussion started - it is
enough merely to consider the logical possibility of duplication.


-- 
Stathis Papaioannou

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